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Kinetic also left out the intake splitter brace...

Hasegawa instructions (part K28):

11F23DA1-49A7-4B11-8A63-BF73A112D5EB_zpsx9vnwrb4.jpg

Kinetic:

D478D7C7-E472-4D39-B033-99ED95C06B87_zpsfke2vyu5.jpg

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Would someone with knowledge render an assessment of the comment 2 pages back that the vertical stabs are the same height as the Monogram 18 kits, which are supposedly too short? Thanks.

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Would someone with knowledge render an assessment of the comment 2 pages back that the vertical stabs are the same height as the Monogram 18 kits, which are supposedly too short? Thanks.

If referring to my comment, I meant the revised Monogram F/A-18C kit which I thought Monogram had corrected in the early 1990s. It does not have the rounded off tails though, which the original (undersized) 1980s release did have. LOL

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If referring to my comment, I meant the revised Monogram F/A-18C kit which I thought Monogram had corrected in the early 1990s. It does not have the rounded off tails though, which the original (undersized) 1980s release did have. LOL

That's easy enough for me to check the stash. Thanks.

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Kinetic also left out the intake splitter brace...

Hasegawa instructions (part K28):

11F23DA1-49A7-4B11-8A63-BF73A112D5EB_zpsx9vnwrb4.jpg

Kinetic:

D478D7C7-E472-4D39-B033-99ED95C06B87_zpsfke2vyu5.jpg

That's too bad!!!

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Kinetic also left out the intake splitter brace...

Hasegawa instructions (part K28):

11F23DA1-49A7-4B11-8A63-BF73A112D5EB_zpsx9vnwrb4.jpg

Kinetic:

D478D7C7-E472-4D39-B033-99ED95C06B87_zpsfke2vyu5.jpg

That's too bad!!! :angry:

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That's too bad!!! mad.gif

Yes. K28 is out of scale and holes need to filled up before gluing the piece of Evergreen strip.

intake.jpg

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Hyperscale has now reviewed this kit with lotsa photos. The surface detail looks nice; I still can't make up my mind (or maybe my eyes?) about the nose shape. But yet again, the main gear bay plumbing is symmetrical -why is impossible to tool this correctly in styrene? :bandhead2:/>

Taking Neo's point, the integrally moulded rudders also look good, but would need to be cut out and angled to depict most parked aircraft. That would destroy the lovely, fine hinge detail.

I'm sure this is a fine kit, perhaps even a great one in parts, but the Ultimate Hornet in this scale has not yet arrived and I can't help thinking that some opportunities were missed here.

Just my 10 English pennies...

Now you have set off my AMS! LOL

What's wrong with the nose?

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Interestingly, the Kinetic kit's splitter plates have a small slot molded into the back which may be for a brace but just not called out in the instructions. They seem to have missed several parts during the assembly sequence. Of note is the lack of instructions on installing the wingtip launchers.

Mark

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Does anyone have a build review going on this kit? I'd really like to follow along on a build to see how it is, pitfalls, etc.

Mike

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Does anyone have a build review going on this kit? I'd really like to follow along on a build to see how it is, pitfalls, etc.

Mike

I've had one on my desk for the past week and started to put pices together. I haven't had the time to snap any pictures yet but I'll try to do that after the long weekend. Overall, I think it's a good value at $39.99 but I'm not unloading my Hasegawa kits just yet. Some parts drop together beautifully while others leave you scratching your head. The nose area is really problematic in that you have no less than 8 different parts all coming together in the same small space. And, it will undoubtedly be the first part of the model that you look at. Several folks have commented that they were suspicious of the nose shape based on early test shot builds. My hunch is that the shape was off on these builds because of the difficulty in getting all the parts lined up correctly. As noted elsewhere, there are a number of mistakes in the instruction sheet and you need to take your time working through the build.

Cliff

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thanks Cliff! I'll be interested to follow your build. I guess my question would be after it's done, is it really that much better than the hasegawa or just more options?

cheers,

Mike

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Cliff

The parts on nose has 8 pc because we need to provide different option on different block of the hornet not to mention the refuel prob. The fitting is good. All you need is the sequence of assembly.

If you compare with Hasegawa, we have better option than it also our surface detail is better than them.

Option that we provided more than other offering:

Fold wing, refuelling probe, full intake truck, more detail cockpit, correct wing tank, weapon included.

For fitting we provide the one pc hull to reduce the trouble in the lower hull installation. For those advanced modeller, we seperate the MLG well so the aftermarket option cane be installed more friendly.

As for the instruction we may miss few no and we will update it and post here.

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That's too bad!!! :angry:/>

To me, that little part was always a royal pain to install on the Hasegawa kit (I've built at least 8 of them). It is very difficult to see, and personally I don't care if it's there or not.

Spoiler alert: I have sometimes NOT installed that part on my Hasegawa kits!

ALF

:rolleyes:

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To me, that little part was always a royal pain to install on the Hasegawa kit (I've built at least 8 of them). It is very difficult to see, and personally I don't care if it's there or not.

Spoiler alert: I have sometimes NOT installed that part on my Hasegawa kits!

ALF

:rolleyes:/>

Say it ain't so....

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Yeah, me too. I have lost that tiny part SO many times. But most of them have it.

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That's too bad!!! :angry:/>

I have checked the parts is there, but not in the instruction.

The PE17 is the brace we will update the manual to indicate that.

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Kinetic also left out the intake splitter brace...

Hasegawa instructions (part K28):

11F23DA1-49A7-4B11-8A63-BF73A112D5EB_zpsx9vnwrb4.jpg

Kinetic:

D478D7C7-E472-4D39-B033-99ED95C06B87_zpsfke2vyu5.jpg

the intake supporting brace is on the PE17

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Hey Raymond just wanted to say thanks for the great Hornet kit.

Having built my share of Hasegawa Hornets it's going to be nice to build a kit which seems to fit beautifully from my test fitting.

Lovely surface detail and a boat load of weapons for the stash.

Very impressed so a few more orders to follow!

Edited by dehowie

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Raymond,

Looking forward to this kit, please let us know when you will be providing an updated instructions. Thanks!

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I am really looking forward to when the A and B versions come out. I will certainly buy a few. Any idea how long it will be before we get the earlier versions?

ALF

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I got mine today from Lucky Model. The price was $39 plus shipping. I'm not a Hornet expert - but it looks really nice - and I really like the separate main gear wells. The missing antenna is the size of a pinhead - and shouldn't be an issue for almost any of us. The decal sheet is beautiful - with a great weapons sheet as well. Most aftermarket Cartograf sheets alone cost around $20, so by in large - any other Hornet kit would require an aftermarket decal sheet, putting this kit (by my estimation) to be quite a bargain. I only looked at the parts / instructions and decals - but from what I could see - it looks great - with plenty of options. I would think it would fit the bill very easily for most modelers.

Hitch

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The rush to find an error, missing detail, etc is crazy. So the kit missed a plastic part. antenna on the nose. Not the first time a kit was missing a small detail. Black box years ago did an F-18 update set which had those very pieces included. The brace on the inside of the intake, well ever had to use a piece of rod or sprue on a build? What I am saying is that Raymond has delivered a very, very good kit in the F-18. Better than the Hasegawa kit in shape, detail, design, build ease and price. This kit I think over the years will become the Tamiya F-16 to F-18 builders. Those who rush to find fault have likely never designed a kit, kept track of 250 parts, managed not only design, but research, development, packaging, marketing and spent your own money to do it. Most older kits, like the Hasegawa F-18 were never seen by the modeler during the design phase with design drawings (CAD details in the case of the Kinetic F-18, AMK MiG-31 etc), shown to the modelers of the world for comment. It is exceptional transparency that a manufacture of a kit would do this. I would personally like to commend Raymond, Martin, Vadimir and others, manufactures like Airfix, AMK, Eduard, Kittyhawk and others for allowing the modeler to see, comment and be part of the design phase of the kits. I've worked for a kit manufacture and have been called into the CEO's office several times and questioned why so and so is commenting on a part while the kit is in the design phase? Tried to explain that is called research and obtaining input from experts in that particular area, but they were not happy that anyone would have knowledge of a kit's design or details before it was released. I am excited that my Kinetic F-18's are on their way to me, and will certainly clear off any projects on my workbench to begin this kit. Like the F-14's I love the aircraft, but earlier kits were too expensive to build very many (Hasegawa F-18), hard to build (Hasegawa F-14) or when affordable just tough to build (Monogram F-18). A very big thank you to Raymond Chung and Kinetic for this kit, for being interactive with the modelers, for allowing us to be part of the design phase, and most especially being part of this great hobby. Some manufactures work hard to become better with each kit, others seem to have gone backwards (in my opinion other un-named manufactures in China). So now its just a waiting game with the postman.

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