Crazy Snap Captain Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Hi all, Does anyone know what sort of a/c the Russian Air Force is using in its air strikes in Syria? Any info on unit and/or specific a/c would be tops. Thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-34411477 The BBC makes a good point about the lack of a targeting pod capability on Russian aircraft, do Russian aircraft have a JDAM type capability? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bdt13 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Looks like Su-24, Su-25, Su-30, Il-20, and Il-76. All links from the Aviationist: Moving in planes in secret Latest Imagery... Il-20 Coot spyplane Su-30 Fullbacks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Finn Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 A short video here: Jari Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mingwin Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 it's sad they covered their stars and markings...(on the Su-24, at least...) ...i was hoping for some interesting modeling subjects( to come out from all that (what's happening in Syria))... but with nearly no markings at all... it's a tad turnoff on my inspiration... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cag_200 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 (edited) What if russian aircraft controllers pick up coalition aircraft (or versus) during bombing on radar? Will the russian attack planes limit their use of capabilities? Edited October 2, 2015 by cag_200 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Exhausted Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 What if russian aircraft controllers pick up coalition aircraft (or versus) during bombing on radar? Will the russian attack planes limit their use of capabilities? Their capabilities remain limited by virtue of less experience and type of equipment. For the West, Russian aircraft aren't the threat -- it's the SAM bubble they've installed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-34411477 The BBC makes a good point about the lack of a targeting pod capability on Russian aircraft, do Russian aircraft have a JDAM type capability? Not real JDAM capability but a video of Su-34 landing shows it landing with a KAB-500S bomb, which is GPS/GLONASS guided. It appears Su-25SM's and Su-24M's has only been flying with good old dumb FAB bombs so far. Fencer's has been referred to as Su-24M2's but i have yet to see any in videos, they all appear to be either vanilla Su-24M's or Su-24M's upgraded with the "Gefest" upgrade which improves the accuracy for dumb bombs. The bort number 26 is likely to be this one; And that is Gefest upgraded. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Nose got changed/repainted but otherwise other details match. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cag_200 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 (edited) Baltic Intercepts occur with radar-off, same for the russians i suppose as specs are kept to a minimum. Coalition/russian aircraft share syrian airspace now, can they spy on eachother while bombing on ISIS? Edited October 2, 2015 by cag_200 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Exhausted Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Coalition/russian aircraft share syrian airspace now, can they spy on eachother while bombing on ISIS? Yes. This is why the US should reserve it's airpower and call upon Egypt, Jordan and Saudi Arabia to carry out the majority of the strikes. That way if any of them are shot down by Russian missiles, the US can deliver a smackdown with stealth aircraft the poor bastages can't identify or maybe not even see. Maybe we can scoop up some S-300s like the Israelis did with an Egyptian SA-6 during the 1973 war. I really can't see why not. It's hard to be scared in the valley of death when you may choose to be the main threat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Yes. This is why the US should reserve it's airpower and call upon Egypt, Jordan and Saudi Arabia to carry out the majority of the strikes. That way if any of them are shot down by Russian missiles, the US can deliver a smackdown with stealth aircraft the poor bastages can't identify or maybe not even see. Not sure how well our allies would take this approach - "Hey, you guys do the fighting and bleeding, we've got your backs if it gets really bad". My guess is that the Russians probably have everything in their arsenal that is designed to detect and engage stealthy targets deployed over there. This is a great chance for them to track actual F-22's that are in combat configuration. This whole thing has the potential to come off the tracks very quickly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mingwin Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 (edited) Not sure how well our allies would take this approach - "Hey, you guys do the fighting and bleeding, we've got your backs if it gets really bad".+1 My guess is that the Russians probably have everything in their arsenal that is designed to detect and engage stealthy targets deployed over there.+1 This is a great chance for them to track actual F-22's that are in combat configuration.+1 This whole thing has the potential to come off the tracks very quickly.+1 yes, please, keep this very interesting topic "on-topic", keep it focused on Russian Hardware... and avoid what-if scenarios. Edited October 2, 2015 by mingwin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Exhausted Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 (edited) My guess is that the Russians probably have everything in their arsenal that is designed to detect and engage stealthy targets deployed over there. This is a great chance for them to track actual F-22's that are in combat configuration. F-22s are great pieces of hardware, full of guarded secrets that the Air Force surely want to remain secret and not necessarily crucial until the US declares open season on the poor bastages. I don't think our hardware is a werewolf-killing silver bullet, but there's no reason to NOT to have confidence in American hardware. This whole thing has the potential to come off the tracks very quickly. Hmmm, not trying to be a jerk, but nothing has been on track lately. But by missing so widely the Russians never even made it onto the tracks. And that brings me back to hardware. Who knows what type of Russian detection equipment is likely deployed? Types? Capabilities? ACIG is probably where I'll look later for some clearer information. Edited October 2, 2015 by Exhausted Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raptor01 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 White Bort numbers are on the Begemot & Authentic Decal sheets for the Su-24. I used Bort white 22 from the Authentic Sheet. Begemot Decals are a little better than Authentic, a little thinner, both react well to Micro Set & Sol. If White 22 shows up RF-90983 as a participant that would be my Fencer in Critique Corner. John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Exhausted Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Muito interessante o Pocheco! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kotey Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 (edited) white 05 with red outlines you can find at Begemot Su-24 decal 48-019 Su-24 Begemot Decal Marking scheme 27 from instruction, it is exactly aircraft from photo. Edited October 2, 2015 by kotey Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kotey Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 (edited) No problem, we have in "true scale" this marking too 72-040 Su-24 Our decal were made in time, when this aircraft were in Khurba, now, after overhaul this aircraft in Shagol. Edited October 2, 2015 by kotey Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DarkKnight Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 so are they using the SU-34 or not? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kotey Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 (edited) Yes, Su-34 too - with KAB-500 guilded bombs Edited October 3, 2015 by kotey Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 (edited) so are they using the SU-34 or not? Have you checked any link posted in this thread? Basically every link shows them. Su-30SM's with ECM pods. Bonus; Source. Edited October 3, 2015 by Berkut Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RoNaf Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Cool scheme on this ac. Is this pic from Syria? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 I wouldn't post it in a thread about strikes by RuAF in Syria if it wasnt in Syria. So yes, the pictures are from Syria. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RoNaf Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Justchecking. Now we need decals for these babys in 1/32. Linden hill? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 (edited) There isnt a kit of it in any scale. Decals would be the least of the worries and the bort numbers are generic anyway. Edited October 3, 2015 by Berkut Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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