11bee Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Another Russian helo shot down. This time a Hind, both crew lost. One report has Russia claiming it was shot down by a US TOW missile. Never heard of a TOW being able to hit a moving helo (the ones I saw in action were lucky to hit a stationary tank). From the video, it looks more like the Hind took some AAA hits. Low and slow during daylight hours probably isn't the way to go. http://www.breakingisraelnews.com/71559/isis-shoots-russian-helicopter-killing-two-pilots-watch/#Pzg5qIrIi3EASahy.97 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Don Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 (edited) It almost looks like the Hind was on a rocket firing run. Could debris or some malfunction from its own rockets have taken it down? Regardless I concur with 11bee in that there is no way a TOW did that as there was three distinct and seemingly evenly timed flashes before the Hind went out of control (like rockets being ripple fired). Sorry for the loss of the crew. Edited July 10, 2016 by Don Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kotey Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Were shut down Mi-35M, reason of faling - lead of tail rotor after blast. The reason of blast in uknown now, two primary version: - fire from ground (portable SAM (were smoke trail?), small caliber artilery, TOW missile (as not so long time ago were shut down Turkish AH-1), RPG grenade as in Somalia) - blast of defect rocket engine of S-8 unguilded missile during launch. Anyway pilot - commander of one of the RuAF helicopter regiment's Rafy'gat Habbibulin (51 year) and oprerator Eugeniy Dolgin (24 year) were died. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kotey Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 How about already aviliable in 1\72 scale Su-24 family and Su-24 family stencil decals: 72-040 Su-24 family decal 72-041 Su-24 family full stensil Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kotey Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 About markings - yes, our decal were printed before RuAF operation in Syria. What stencil do you mean - we have stencil for Su-24, 24M and 24MR in this set, stencil for weapon too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andre Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 No heat dissipators on the large exhausts of those Hinds? The Mi-8 has them but the Hinds don't. Any reason for this? AFAIK they impact performance. Presumably in the hot Syrian climate the Hinds need all the oomph they can get. HTH, Andre Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 AFAIK they impact performance. Presumably in the hot Syrian climate the Hinds need all the oomph they can get. HTH, Andre I find that to be surprising too, given wide-spread use of MANPADS over there. If it was a performance issue, one would have thought they would have followed what the US did and just equip the Hinds with a reduced weapons load. Maybe they are very confident of the Hind's countermeasure suite and don't feel diffusers are necessary? Which still makes one wonder why the Hips have these mounted. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Don Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Just seems like an unnecessary risk to have your pilots flying around low and relatively slow with those two big exhausts kicking out buckets of heat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Another Russian helo has been shot down. 5 crew KIA. Tough environment for operating helos in. Was supposedly delivering humanitarian supplies. The greatful Syrian civilians showed their appreciation by desicrating the bodies of the crew members. What a nightmarish country. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Don Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Sorry to hear of this latest shoot down. Thoughts and prayers to the crews families. . Don Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Don Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 A link for anyone interested: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-36939137 . Don. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mingwin Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 thanks Don for the link, what a sad sight to see Syria in such a derelict state... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted August 6, 2016 Share Posted August 6, 2016 The downed one... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TaiidanTomcat Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 The downed one... Armed when downed? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 Armed when downed? Loaded rocket pods appeared to be present in the wreckage. Looks like this helo was fitted with the new missile countermeasures equip. Any info out there on how it was shot down? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Don Posted August 7, 2016 Share Posted August 7, 2016 Heat dissipators over the exhausts if the pic above is correct. Yet Hinds apparently operate without them... curious... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cag_200 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 The CIA investigates the heli new missile countermeasures equipment via the rebels and hope to get the resin parts in time for sale on Hyperscale. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crazy Snap Captain Posted August 16, 2016 Author Share Posted August 16, 2016 (edited) Tu-22M3 Backfires get in on the action... https://www.rt.com/news/356098-russian-bombers-iran-hamadan/ Edited August 16, 2016 by Crazy Snap Captain Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Don Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 https://www.rt.com/news/356098-russian-bombers-iran-hamadan/ Interesting article. Personally I love reading the posts in the comment sections in articles like this. Very entertaining while sipping my morning coffee. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fulcrum1 Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Russia launching strategic and tactical bombers from Iran for operations in Syria and they have also asked Iraq for use of their air space for cruise missiles launched from the Caspian sea into Syria. What can possibly go wrong! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Berkut Posted August 16, 2016 Share Posted August 16, 2016 Russia launching strategic and tactical bombers from Iran for operations in Syria and they have also asked Iraq for use of their air space for cruise missiles launched from the Caspian sea into Syria. What can possibly go wrong! You mean other than the fact that they have asked and used Iraq's airspace months ago cruise missiles and it went fine? Last i checked coalition is not flying only from their own countries, so what is the issue exactly flying from Iran? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
305swag Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Russia launching strategic and tactical bombers from Iran for operations in Syria and they have also asked Iraq for use of their air space for cruise missiles launched from the Caspian sea into Syria. What can possibly go wrong! Got to hand it to the Russians, they are the big boys in the region. They can do as they please. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vaildog Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 You mean other than the fact that they have asked and used Iraq's airspace months ago cruise missiles and it went fine? Last i checked coalition is not flying only from their own countries, so what is the issue exactly flying from Iran? Such a good little water carrier you are! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fulcrum1 Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 You mean other than the fact that they have asked and used Iraq's airspace months ago cruise missiles and it went fine? Last i checked coalition is not flying only from their own countries, so what is the issue exactly flying from Iran? Perspective is an interesting thing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TaiidanTomcat Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Got to hand it to the Russians, they are the big boys in the region. They can do as they please. When you leave, others move in. Don't steal that by the way, it can be my book title for my middle east opus. We were very public about removing ourselves from there, then we are surprised when remove ourselves from there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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