lesthegringo Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 (edited) I'll start off with the disclaimer that 1) I'm not a rivet counter so 100% accuracy isn't my whole life and 2) my in depth knowledge of Russian aircraft is the thickness of a page So, hopefully having headed off a lot of caustic replies with that, the question I want to ask is whether the forthcoming AMK MiG-31 kit could potentially be used to help produce a correction set for the generally panned Kinetic MiG-25 kit. As I understand it one of the biggest criticisms was the totally absent intake trunking and ramps, and the exhausts. Would the parts from the AMK kit be similar enough to the MiG-25 shapes to be adapted, or at least used to make moulds for the basis of corrective parts? Cheers Edited October 13, 2015 by lesthegringo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
B.Sin Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 The MiG-25 and the MiG-31, although resembling each other, are completely different aircraft. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 The MiG-25 and MiG-31 have no more in common than the MiG name plate. There are no parts in common between the two bigger than a Phillips screw. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew D. the Jolly Rogers guy Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Oh, I don't know...could use the control stick! :P Seriously though, it's a case of one being developed from the other, but everything was altered a bit. Think F-8 Crusader to A-7 Corsair and you get the idea. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lesthegringo Posted October 14, 2015 Author Share Posted October 14, 2015 Fair enough, just wondered if there was a way to salvage the MiG-25 kit. Looks like we'll have to wait for AMK to decide to do one Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sharkmouth Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Fair enough, just wondered if there was a way to salvage the MiG-25 kit. Looks like we'll have to wait for AMK to decide to do one There is, it is hard work but possible. There is a thread covering most of the issues elsewhere on this site and Britmodeller. For me, due to the sharkmouth scheme, my main concern was the nose with the lower rear fuselage radii not being so important since it is obstructed by wings, pylons, weapons, and landing gear. I am using the Eduard sets although it was mentioned wheels were coming out for the kit but I've yet to see them. I put my kit on the shelf (away from the dreaded Shelf of Doom) as I await delivery of some new goodies for it. At the moment, I am easily fixing the angled main landing gear bays on a Trumpeter 72nd scale Flanker since some people have stated this was the reason not to get the kit. Regards, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vaildog Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 If you aren't too concerned about counting rivets, the Kitty Hawk Mig-25 is actually not that bad. I bought it when it was released because it was the epitome of a menacing Soviet brute for a Cold War kid. I waited a long tine to finally work on it because of all the horror stories I saw online. The britmodeller build was very helpful in the worst part of the kit, the awful fit of the fuselage halves and intakes. Once you carefully fit them together and take your time with some clamps and maybe some styrene tabs, the build is straight forward from there. If you are like me and have never seen a mig-25 in real life, it looks sinister enough to put on the shelf. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beingthehero Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Kittyhawk's Foxbat is a victim of being overhyped. But you couldn't mistake it for being anything other than a MiG-25, and it's a marked improvement over Revell's MiG-25. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lesthegringo Posted October 14, 2015 Author Share Posted October 14, 2015 Thanks guys. For info, how have you guys that built it deal with the intake trunking? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MoFo Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 although it was mentioned wheels were coming out for the kit but I've yet to see them. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I'm as anxious as anyone to get them. Intake trunks and exhausts, too. One thing to note: there is a prominent and oft-referenced build on one of the major blogs (Osprey's?), that suggests cutting the exhaust tubes in half. Don't. The depth of the exhausts is actually pretty close, even if everything else about them is pooched. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flankerman Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 At the moment, I am easily fixing the angled main landing gear bays on a Trumpeter 72nd scale Flanker since some people have stated this was the reason not to get the kit. Regards, Can you show us how, please ? Ken Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sharkmouth Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 I'm as anxious as anyone to get them. Intake trunks and exhausts, too. Lucky for me, the Eduard set includes FOD intake covers to hide the lack of trunking. New exhaust cans would be nice or I'd cover them up as well. I did find a set or 48th scale wheels by Armory. No idea about the quality. Regards, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Walker Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Armory's resin is gorgeous!! Buy with confidence!!! Click2detail do burners for the Mig-25, in both long and short versions. They aren't meant for any articular kit, being upscaled from their initial 1/72 version. They are fabulous, IMO!!! M Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Walker Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 (edited) Click2detail also do intakes, however, they are $109.00!!!!! http://www.click2detail.com/store/p84/1%3A72_Mig-25_Intake_Trunks.html I will be using the intake covers from Eduard..... M Edited October 14, 2015 by Matt Walker Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sharkmouth Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Armory's resin is gorgeous!! Buy with confidence!!! Thank you for that as it will boost my confidence about buying it. I would like to know if it is accurate since I am believing you're impressed by the reproduction (which is important too). Click2detail do burners for the Mig-25, in both long and short versions. They aren't meant for any articular kit, being upscaled from their initial 1/72 version. They are fabulous, IMO!!! My experience with directly bought 3D printed products has not been very good under close scrutiny. What I am referring to are artifacts and ridges. Both were apparent on the armor products I bought so I could get away with it but something that should be as smooth as sheet metal is something I don't know if the 3D printed approach is the best one. Regards, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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