Grandboof Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Looking good awaiting the finish Martin H Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scotthldr Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Arrggghhhhhhhh, the Icarus stencil sheet :blink: you'll feel each one of those emotions by the time you've put the 300+ decals on the plane. One point though is that the stencils are in English, did the ex Luftwaffe jets not have German stencils after arrival? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sabre Fan Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Hello Captain! I would not take the stencils, the ex Lutwaffen Birds had these stencils surely not!!!! You save one mix work and annoyance! Otherwise great lacquer finish looks super! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scotthldr Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Hi Andrew, FYI... The ex Luftwaffe jets were delivered with all stencil data in German(the Luftwaffe jets were just as heavily stenciled). Over time the data was changed to English, but unfortunately I can't find any information to suggest what that time scale was. Either way you would be correct, but if 100% accuracy is a main concern then I would drop Ioannis Lekkas a pm. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crazy Snap Captain Posted April 25, 2016 Author Share Posted April 25, 2016 Hello Captain! I would not take the stencils, the ex Lutwaffen Birds had these stencils surely not!!!! You save one mix work and annoyance! Otherwise great lacquer finish looks super! :woo:/> Hi Andrew, FYI... The ex Luftwaffe jets were delivered with all stencil data in German(the Luftwaffe jets were just as heavily stenciled). Over time the data was changed to English, but unfortunately I can't find any information to suggest what that time scale was. Either way you would be correct, but if 100% accuracy is a main concern then I would drop Ioannis Lekkas a pm. Thanks for tyhe info guys. I tried a few on for size and now there are two issues. One is the accuracy factor that you guys have mentioned above and the other is that I got the grey stencils which are more dark gray than light grey so they dont show up very well at all on the dark camo scheme. So, I either order the white stencils or do none. Checking to see if I can find them on the web now... :( Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crazy Snap Captain Posted April 26, 2016 Author Share Posted April 26, 2016 So all I can find is a plethora of Black and Grey versions and a few white ones that as far as I'm concerned are way to expensive... I'll keep looking but its not looking good... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tobiK Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Have a look out for the air doc decals: RF-4E Norm 83 at shopofphantoms, the 1/48 decals are OOP, but maybe you can find some in the net. So you get the german stencils at least. To make an early version in the HAF. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crazy Snap Captain Posted April 26, 2016 Author Share Posted April 26, 2016 Have a look out for the air doc decals: RF-4E Norm 83 at shopofphantoms, the 1/48 decals are OOP, but maybe you can find some in the net. So you get the german stencils at least. To make an early version in the HAF. Thanks Tobi I'll check it out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spectre711 Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Are the AeroMaster stencils for the Norm 83 paint? They are easily found and cheap. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sabre Fan Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 here still a few pictures and/or decals of airdoc. all are from the beautiful airdoc book concerning the GAF RF 4E. I do not believe except the sovereignty badges which was changed. those maintenance-refers is in grey writing and designate wade-fold build also times sometime a RF however as German bird! happy modelling. :rolleyes:/>/> Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crazy Snap Captain Posted April 28, 2016 Author Share Posted April 28, 2016 Sabre Fan. Awesome photos. Thanks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crazy Snap Captain Posted April 30, 2016 Author Share Posted April 30, 2016 So it looks like I need to get the white stencils. I'm benching the beast till I get the right ones. Can't handle doing it inaccurately! Hopefully get them before end of May! In the meantime... A new box is opened.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tobiK Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Don't put your phantom too far away! I have organized something for you: you can have the stencil sheets from the airdoc decals. You get PM! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crazy Snap Captain Posted April 30, 2016 Author Share Posted April 30, 2016 Don't put your phantom too far away! I have organized something for you: you can have the stencil sheets from the airdoc decals. You get PM! Frigging legend! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scotthldr Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Don't put your phantom too far away! I have organized something for you: you can have the stencil sheets from the airdoc decals. You get PM! What a Gentleman Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tobiK Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 So meanwhile I tried to manage something but no success. So I also searched my stash for F-4 decals and focused on white stencils. There is (and hopefully also out on the market) something that can be usefull for you: one option are the late british grey Phantoms: white stencils included in the airdoc sheet no. ADS 173/149001. OFC you should compare with your Icarus sheet what you can use and what not because it is special for the F-4M. About that sheet I will ask directly at airdoc the next days. also british stencils (white) you can get from hobbydecal. No. AL48005V1 "RAF FGR.27F-4M stencils 1". and F-4 Panel numbers stencil font white ver 1, no. ST48042V1 (for all types of Phantoms, also RF, very good instruction, very comprehensive). but please note: these are dry transfer decals, if you are not familiar or anxious about that you can put the stencils first on a clear decal and cut it into piece, then aplly like an ordinary water slide decal. For this use: ZP001 "clear decal for HD dry transfer" Source: look at "www.hobbydecal.com" As you painted the RF in FS colors, it means it already got a treatment in the greek paint shop and therefore it is possible that the german RF stencils were not added but the US-type stencils (maybe) - only my 0,02 $. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantom Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Thats coming along great, the decals you sent me should be going on mine in a week or two. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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