f4h1phantom Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 (edited) Jeeezzz!!! :( Jorge. Edited January 21, 2016 by f4h1phantom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
azzaob Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Agree, with the interest still around for the 1/48th Bone, and the recent Barracuda upgrades for the Revell kit, it would be nice, as a first step to see some resin/aftermarket for the 1/72 kit at the least: exhausts, intakes, etc...? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Exhausted Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 What all is wrong with the Revell/Mono Bone? That's one kit my old man built but I haven't touched one yet. If you want updates, I think we have some good options ahead of us between aftermarket manus with resin and 3d printing coming down in cost. I think we'll see big improvements in 3d printing happening in the near future now that the consumer market can fuel further development and guide requirements a little. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
azzaob Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 (edited) The Barracuda resin looks very nice [in 1/48th], and I know Caracal decals intends to bring out his new Bone decals in 1/72 at some point. I haven't really seen any aftermarket stuff in 1/72 for the Revell kit [beyond some decals for silly money on Ebay] over the last few years. I only have some resin ACES seats and those Cutting Edge decals available on Dave Klaus's site for my two in 1/72. Would like to get featherless cans at the least. Revell Germany re-release probably would be more likely than a new-tool, but you never know. Two years ago who would have thought their would be newly-tooled MiG-25s/MiG-31s in 1/48th and a 1/72 Tu-22 Blinder etc... Edited January 21, 2016 by azzaob Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Murph Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 I'm surprised that Trumpeter hasn't issued one in 1/72 scale. What I find interesting is that Wolfpack Resins in Korea had carried four different update sets for the Revell Bone as "future releases" on their website for quite some time, but now they're gone. I wonder if they heard something about a future release that made them cancel the project? Regards, Murph Quote Link to post Share on other sites
joeltc Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 1/72 B-1B! Ive been wanting one of those for years. Imagine if Hasegawa did one! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dmanton300 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Countdown to someone saying "I'd rather it was in 48th/32nd/24th/18th/12th/23.4569th" commencing. . . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 (edited) What all is wrong with the Revell/Mono Bone? It's got several major inaccuracies. And in today's world, its major failing is raised (GASP!) panel lines and the simple fact that the kit is almost 35 years old. Edited January 21, 2016 by Jennings Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andre Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Imagine if Hasegawa did one! :pray:/> I imagine the sorry state of my wallet. :) Cheers, Andre Quote Link to post Share on other sites
echolmberg Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 (edited) It's got several major inaccuracies. And in today's world, its major failing is raised (GASP!) panel lines and the simple fact that the kit is almost 35 years old. I'm about 98% done with my 1/72 Revell B-1 and I've been enjoying it immensely. The fit is fine. Needed a little bit of filler but who cares? Most models need that anyway. Yes, I'm aware of the inaccuracies but I'm not building the kit to be displayed at the right hand of God. It's just for me and the way the kit is now makes for a good and frustration-free build. When I'm standing a couple of feet away from it, I see the job I'm doing with it and it makes me happy. Also, there's nothing wrong with raised panel lines. Eric Edited January 21, 2016 by echolmberg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Platycqb Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 What all is wrong with the Revell/Mono Bone? There are several builds on the internet. This is just one, but it gives you a rough idea of the work you can put in the Bone. http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal7/6301-6400/gal6360-B-1B-Yu/00.shtm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shorty84 Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 (edited) Well, I'm not an expert when it comes to the "Bone" but here are 2 builds which mention a few of the issues with the Revell/Monogram B-1: http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234928898-bad-to-the-bone-correcting-and-updating-monogramrevells-172-b-1b/ http://designer.home.xs4all.nl/models/b1b-bone/b1b-1.html Markus Edited January 21, 2016 by Shorty84 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
K5054NZ Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 OP - have you emailed any companies asking/suggesting it? I wouldn't imagine anyone confirming it, but I find it helps to at least ask and perhaps "plant the seed". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hoops Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 (edited) The Barracuda resin looks very nice [in 1/48th], and I know Caracal decals intends to bring out his new Bone decals in 1/72 at some point. I emailed the folks at Barracuda in November and asked if they would be scaling any of the resin updates down to 1/72. They replied in the affirmative and said the updates would most likely available this spring time frame. Caracal also intends to scale down their sheet eventually, but that could take a while. I think they represent the best option for decals in 1/72, as the Twobobs sheets left a lot to be desired. Cheers, Hoops Edited January 21, 2016 by Hoops Quote Link to post Share on other sites
azzaob Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 I emailed the folks at Barracuda in November and asked if they would be scaling any of the resin updates down to 1/72. They replied in the affirmative and said the updates would most likely available this spring time frame. Caracal also intends to scale down their sheet eventually, but that could take a while. I think they represent the best option for decals in 1/72, as the Twobobs sheets left a lot to be desired. Cheers, Hoops Good news on the Barracuda resin! Caracal's Bone decals are on their way to me, from the pics he has posted they look top notch. Cannot wait :) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
markiii Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 I emailed the folks at Barracuda in November and asked if they would be scaling any of the resin updates down to 1/72. They replied in the affirmative and said the updates would most likely available this spring time frame. Cheers, Hoops They are also releasing a Sniper pod in 1/48th. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fighting Eighty-Four Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 They are also releasing a Sniper pod in 1/48th. That is excellent news! I will be getting one of those for sure. I already have all the other Barracuda B-1B Bits. Dang, that is a lot of Bs I just typed! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thegoodsgt Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Some day one of the manufacturers will get around to a new-tool B-1. That's nothing more than a prediction. Steven Brown Scale Model Soup Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AlCZ Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 I don't know why are Revell to lazy and don't upgrade their Bones to today standard (new nozzles, new weaponry, new systems bulges...) this is a few new tool parts. I bought in summer a re-box of Bone by RoG in 1/48 and hope in Barracuda parts but when i saw price (you must count with tax to EU) i fast forget to order it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
adamitri Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 I don't know why are Revell to lazy and don't upgrade their Bones to today standard (new nozzles, new weaponry, new systems bulges...) this is a few new tool parts. I bought in summer a re-box of Bone by RoG in 1/48 and hope in Barracuda parts but when i saw price (you must count with tax to EU) i fast forget to order it. same reason they havent really updated their 1/48 F-15E kit. Laziness. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Boyer Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 (edited) same reason they havent really updated their 1/48 F-15E kit. Laziness. AICZ and adamitri: Sorry, but I have to call you out on this. Apparently, you guys think kit manufacturers have nothing better to do than to constantly (and expensively) make minor update revisions to otherwise excellent kits. Probably fewer than 1% of the market (the people who spend money on their kits) would even notice such updates, let alone demand them or want to spend more money to get them. Aren't you modelers? Are you too lazy to "model" your own improvements? Edited January 24, 2016 by Paul Boyer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ESzczesniak Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 I'd love a new tool, or even readily available, 1/72 B-1B. While we're at it, how about a well modeled B-2A...1/72 or 1/144. I think the best we have is the SnapTite Revell 1/144, but even that still has it's issues (fit, MLG sitting right, raised panel lines, etc). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
adamitri Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 @ Paul Boyer, I am just saying that if manufacturers can rebox the same kit over and over with different decals (hasegawa for example), why cant they mold the new upgrades ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sarathi S. Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Probably because new decals are a lot cheaper than new toolings. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Boyer Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 @ Paul Boyer, I am just saying that if manufacturers can rebox the same kit over and over with different decals (hasegawa for example), why cant they mold the new upgrades ? Back in the '90s, in conversation with industry insiders, I was told that a good rule of thumb for an injection mold was roughly $1000 per hole (cavity in the mold). That cost would take in all the research, master making, and production of the mold, plus a share of the kit production, marketing, and shipping. Certainly, the effort is easier with computer-driven design and production, but overall prices since the '90s have gone up quite a bit. So let's just guess that $1000 a hole is still the going standard. Most kit manufacturers will not want to make that kind of investment without some assurances that it will make them more money. In the case of the Revell 1/48 Strike Eagle, it was roundly praised as being the best Eagle in the scale, and I imagine it still sells well when it is made available. Why would they want to increase their costs on it by adding "updates" that fewer than 1% (my guess) of the potential customers would want it or even notice? What you don't seem to understand is that you and I (and others on this forum) are part of a very small minority of kit builders who would appreciate such "updates." Come to think of it, I wouldn't know what could be updated and I don't care to spend money on another kit to get it. It's got NOTHING to do with "laziness" on the kit manufacturers part at all. They aren't in this for charity. They have to make money and keep costs down, and unless you can prove that such improvements will increase revenue (and you can't), they're not going to do it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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