Martin @ AMK Models Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Hi all, New information for you. See what you notice..... Decals, box art and plastic signed off. Having taken on board feedback from this and other sites we decided to add the following items to the new release: Germetika sealant inside and outside canopies Photo etched seatbelts Decals for instrument dials etc New weapons New pylons Tinted canopies Looking forward to some feedback from you all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
flanker27 Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Looks good Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Yeeeee-ha!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
speedlimit Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Want! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gonzalo Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 (edited) What is the difference between this Mig-31 and the one that was just released? It looks identical to me. Of course, I am quite the novice when it comes to Russian aircraft. They seem more complicated to figure out than all the different F-16 blocks! Edited January 27, 2016 by gonzalo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Martin @ AMK Models Posted January 27, 2016 Author Share Posted January 27, 2016 Gonzalo, This is the earlier Cold War version with analogue cockpit, different AAM loads and pylons. It does not have a refuelling probe. You can also make the very early MiG-31 sans suffixe with this kit like the early demonstrators at Farnborough airshow etc. With a little work to remove some small bumps on the lower fuselage, adding Odd Rods you have the really early MiG-31. Could build this maybe? Image credit: Matt Morgan / Flickr / The Aviationist Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madmanrick Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 (edited) Wow, another $70 bucks gone like that! :rolleyes:/> Martin, do you have a sense when this will be available for pre-order here in the U.S.? Happy New Year my friend! Rick Edited January 27, 2016 by madmanrick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
carlizle84 Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Phil Flory has a video review on his Youtube page. I think I want one!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mingwin Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 You know how to keep me excited! really looking forward to get at least two of these! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Walker Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 I'm building the initial release kit right now. What a Beauty!!! "The" best kit I've ever had the pleasure of working on! Thank you!! M Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ijozic Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 (edited) This is the earlier Cold War version with analogue cockpit, different AAM loads and pylons.It does not have a refuelling probe. The B definitely has the refueling probe, while I'm not sure of the BS (since IIRC it denotes the early variants upgraded to the B radar, but there was the plain MiG-31 without the probe and the 01DZ with the probe and I don't know if e.g. both got upgraded to BS or only the newer 01DZ). Thanks for all the effort doing those extras. Can't wait for the kit to become available :) The only nitpicks would be that it would be nice to have the observed year(s) for the decal options and that the missiles on the box (and decals) are marked e.g. R-40TD (or even R-40TD1 for the MiG-31B) and R-60M instead of the generic R-40 and R-60. BTW, what's the color of the new canopy tint? Edited January 27, 2016 by ijozic Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 BTW, what's the color of the new canopy tint? Hi Ijozic, The real canopy of the MiG-31's goes off into the yellow tint after years of service. Dear Martin, One of the problems with the original kit is the instruction sheet. Most people will build the kit based on information provided in the instruction. It is interesting to see that the kits build so far on different forums (in very different parts of the world) all have the same mistakes as far as painting the details of the kits. A bit more information would be needed to show exactly what is what and what colour it should be. For the original MiG-31 one would need a lot of conversion even from the second B/BS AMK kit. The original MiG-31 (not only the prototypes) had a very different intake and a completely different engine exhaust as well as lots of small differences. The small differences like the antennas can be scratched but both the exhaust and the intake would need completely new parts. Best regards Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ijozic Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 (edited) The real canopy of the MiG-31's goes off into the yellow tint after years of service. Yeah, I notice this on the photos, but I was asking about the new kit's canopy because it seems tinted in some dark color on the provided photo. Sorry if I missed the discussion in the other thread where the tint on the follow-up canopies was explained.. Edited January 27, 2016 by ijozic Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 ... the other thread where the tint on the follow-up canopies was explained.. Where was that??? Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lyash Igor Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Great news! p.s. Martin, I'd like to know why the panel lines is very wide?) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ijozic Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Where was that??? Sorry, you misunderstood me - I said "if" meaning 'if it was already explained somewhere in the BM thread' :) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Martin @ AMK Models Posted January 27, 2016 Author Share Posted January 27, 2016 Great news! :thumbsup:/> p.s. Martin, I'd like to know why the panel lines is very wide?) Hi, I didn’t think the panel lines were too wide other than sufficient to take some panel liner, wash and various varnishes. If you’re talking about the Flory video, there are a few fundamental mistakes on the review. This was covered before and some prefer deep lines some don’t. It is not possible to please everyone so we took a view that it is better to have a panel line that can take todays modelling methods than not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Martin @ AMK Models Posted January 27, 2016 Author Share Posted January 27, 2016 Dear Martin, One of the problems with the original kit is the instruction sheet. Most people will build the kit based on information provided in the instruction. It is interesting to see that the kits build so far on different forums (in very different parts of the world) all have the same mistakes as far as painting the details of the kits. A bit more information would be needed to show exactly what is what and what colour it should be. Best regards Gabor Hi Gabor, I know you are accepted to be the expert on the MiG-31 so perhaps you could email me with all the changes you think we should make in this regard and I will ensure they are made. Considering that I do all the final checking of the manuals and boxes before printing then I can make these changes. If we are not told where to improve then we will struggle. Please PM me with what you need me to do and I will do it. Thanks for the feedback so far. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Martin @ AMK Models Posted January 27, 2016 Author Share Posted January 27, 2016 Wow, another $70 bucks gone like that! :rolleyes:/>/> Martin, do you have a sense when this will be available for pre-order here in the U.S.? Happy New Year my friend! Rick Hi Rick, Won’t now be until after Chinese New Year. In our effort to get the new pylons, missiles and other parts done properly we will miss the boat. Chinese New Year ends on 28th February. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jennings Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 The original MiG-31 (not only the prototypes) had a very different intake and a completely different engine exhaust as well as lots of small differences. The small differences like the antennas can be scratched but both the exhaust and the intake would need completely new parts. Gabor - could you annotate some photographs for us? I was aware of the exhaust nozzle difference, but not the intakes. Do you know what time period the changes to the later style exhausts and intakes took place? The only MiG-31 I'm interested in doing would be one from the late 1980s, although probably not a very, very early production machine. Petropavlovsk Kamchatskij (865th IAP) wasn't the first place to get Foxhounds... Tks! J Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kotey Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Three visual differences: 1. Exhausts with panele lines or smooth casing 2. Humpbacked or flat form of the upper surfaces of air intake 3. Short or long type of emphasis for folding R-33 plumages Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madmanrick Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Hi Rick, Won’t now be until after Chinese New Year. In our effort to get the new pylons, missiles and other parts done properly we will miss the boat. Chinese New Year ends on 28th February. Well, as much as I want to add this to the stash, I surely appreciate the "get it right" attitude and I can wait. I need to also get cracking and sell my Hobby Boo-Boo Tomcats, so that I have room for AMK's versions when they come. Thanks! Rick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lyash Igor Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Hi, I didn’t think the panel lines were too wide other than sufficient to take some panel liner, wash and various varnishes. If you’re talking about the Flory video, there are a few fundamental mistakes on the review. This was covered before and some prefer deep lines some don’t. It is not possible to please everyone so we took a view that it is better to have a panel line that can take todays modelling methods than not. Hi! Thanks! Understood you. It is an affirmative answer! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Martin @ AMK Models Posted January 28, 2016 Author Share Posted January 28, 2016 Three visual differences: 1. Exhausts with panele lines or smooth casing 2. Humpbacked or flat form of the upper surfaces of air intake 3. Short or long type of emphasis for folding R-33 plumages Hi, Please can you email me or PM some details about the humped style intakes? Thank you very much. How are the decals coming for the MiG-31 early? Will you please please consider doing some test aircraft with the black and white photogrammetry markings? I have a hankering to build Blue 057. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kotey Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 (edited) 1. Humpbacked upper surface of air intake 2. Flat upper surface of air intake Edited January 28, 2016 by kotey Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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