Brad-M Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 (edited) Ok, I will put mine back in the stash until your nose is released :)/> How about an accurate vertical stab? Oops, so I have the MF kit, so I can't use this nose :( Brad Just a little patience and I will release a MiG-23 ML/MLD correct nose set. I just have to finish the MiG-23 BN correct nose and canopy first. Edited May 22, 2016 by Brad-M Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mrvark Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 The ML/MLD nose is almost done. Have to finish scribing some access panels. The nose from Metallic Details is for M/MF Floggers. The next question is if you're planning a correction to the MiG-27 nose, as I'm sure Trumpeter will hose that one up as well (speculation only--haven't seen it). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Laurent Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 The next question is if you're planning a correction to the MiG-27 nose, as I'm sure Trumpeter will hose that one up as well (speculation only--haven't seen it). Based on the pics I saw the real 27 nose nose is deeper, slightly curved at the top and perhaps longer than the 23BN nose. It looks as if Trumpy's MiG-23BN has a 27 nose. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sharkmouth Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Based on the pics I saw the real 27 nose nose is deeper, slightly curved at the top and perhaps longer than the 23BN nose. It looks as if Trumpy's MiG-23BN has a 27 nose. Laurent, you lost me. Trumpeter's MiG-27 nose will be the same as the MiG-23BN nose as they're on the same sprue tree with the fuselage. Another sprue tree with the MiG-27 non-variable intakes: Regards, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Laurent Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Laurent, you lost me. Trumpeter's MiG-27 nose will be the same as the MiG-23BN nose as they're on the same sprue tree with the fuselage. Yes and it's more a MiG-27 nose than a MiG-23BN nose. But anyway the most difficult thing to correct is the canopy and windscreen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sharkmouth Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 (edited) Yes and it's more a MiG-27 nose than a MiG-23BN nose. There were various noses used on the MiG-27 but the initial nose is the same one as the MiG-23BN. First series MiG-27: MiG-23BN (note that I culled plans from the same Russian source and there are others for the different variants and their noses (such as MiG-27M & MiG-27K)): I respect your eye for differences so please, show us what you see. Regards, Edited May 24, 2016 by sharkmouth Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Laurent Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 (edited) I respect your eye for differences so please, show us what you see. I think that Trumpeter used MiG-27M drawings to design the tooling used in the MiG-23BN. The nose looks long and deep. Edited May 24, 2016 by Laurent Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stenkabg Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 The next question is if you're planning a correction to the MiG-27 nose, as I'm sure Trumpeter will hose that one up as well (speculation only--haven't seen it). Let's first get the BN done. I have to do the two fairings on the side as Trumpeters are'wrong. I have corrected the armor plating and other details and improvements. My boss keeps me really busy last month and I have little time to work on the projects. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sharkmouth Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 I see what you're alluding to there... First series MiG-27: MiG-27M: Regards, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Laurent Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 23BN vs 27M overlay of drawings provided by Saul. Nose length is the same but the 27M nose is deeper. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jonbryon Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 I can live with the nose problem (says the guy who has so far bought 1/48 resin noses for Trumpeter's MiG-19, MiG-23M, Su-15TM, Su-24, F-100D, Academy's Mig-29, Eduard's MiG-21bis, Kinetic's S-3E, F-84F and wishes there was a resin correction for Trumpeter's MiG-21F-13) but that damn canopy sill is what kills it for me. I'm hoping someone will come out with a new front fuselage for the MiG-27 at some point. Jon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Laurent Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 ... but that damn canopy sill is what kills it for me. I'm hoping someone will come out with a new front fuselage for the MiG-27 at some point. I understand that Stenka is working on that on the MiG-23BN correction set so if he would do a MiG-27 correction set (or a MiG-27K conversion ) I guess he would also. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jonbryon Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Yep; I reckon he is our best bet! Jon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mingwin Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Yep; I reckon he is our best bet! Jon +1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Otto Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 I have seen the ColdWar Studios update and it looks REALLY good. I am looking forward to it if it is affordable. I don't want to be spending $50 for the kit and another $50 for the upgrade. In that case i will wait for the Zvezda kit. https://www.facebook.com/ColdWarStudiodetails/?fref=nf http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234973404-148-mig-23bn-flogger-h-by-trumpeter-released-nose-correction-set-by-cold-war-studio/page-5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stenkabg Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Quick update: The pictures are not great nut soon there will be better. Just so you see the progress. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Laurent Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 Well that leaves me some time to find a Trump BN at a good price :) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Otto Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 (edited) It looks like you may not have to use a BN for this conversion. You get the whole nose so any MiG-23 from Trump should work. Please correct me if I'm wrong. The other kits can be found for a song. I bought one for $20.For me, it will depend on the price of this conversion, as I mentioned before.If you want to use a BN than $50+$50 =$100. That is a bit too much for something that should cost $39 or so total. Edited June 13, 2016 by Otto Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sharkmouth Posted June 13, 2016 Share Posted June 13, 2016 It looks like you may not have to use a BN for this conversion. You get the whole nose so any MiG-23 from Trump should work. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Trumpeter's MiG-23BN and MiG-27 have fuselage halves which are different from the fighters to accommodate the rear bomb shackles, under fuselage shackles (MiG-23BN), under intake shackles (MiG-27), different engine exhaust, nose bay doors with bulges, main gear doors with bulges (MiG-27), different instrument panels, and weapons. There is more but, this is what is at the top of my head. Regards, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
musangpulut Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 Thanks for the update! Look like it's gonna be a winner.I hope you can cast the clear parts as sharp as possible. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Otto Posted June 14, 2016 Share Posted June 14, 2016 I would much prefer a Vac canopy set. One open and one closed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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