plasticWerks_JL Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 For those who haven't seen; thoughts are with those injured. http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/18/politics/several-sailors-injured-on-uss-eisenhower/index.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Dangerous business working on a carrier deck. Failed arrestor cables are deadly. Could have been much worse I suppose. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yardbird78 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 I hope the injuries are minor and all affected crewmen completely recover. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bigasshammm Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 What's the effect on the airplane in that situation? Did they even notice the cable or is it like they missed it altogether? Gotta be nerve wracking in something like an E-2. How fast do the engines come up to power? Hope all are well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jfmajor60 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 What's the effect on the airplane in that situation? Did they even notice the cable or is it like they missed it altogether? Gotta be nerve wracking in something like an E-2. How fast do the engines come up to power? Hope all are well. I'm pretty sure they bring the engines up to full power once the wheels hit the deck in case they do miss the wire. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew D. the Jolly Rogers guy Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 I'm pretty sure they bring the engines up to full power once the wheels hit the deck in case they do miss the wire. Yep, standard procedure I believe Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fighting Eighty-Four Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 What's the effect on the airplane in that situation? Did they even notice the cable or is it like they missed it altogether? Gotta be nerve wracking in something like an E-2. How fast do the engines come up to power? Hope all are well. From what I read it was indeed an E-2C. It also noted that the sailors are all stable with non-life-threatening injuries. They were very lucky... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bigasshammm Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 I'm pretty sure they bring the engines up to full power once the wheels hit the deck in case they do miss the wire. Yeah I know but how fast do turboprops come up? Jet engines you obviously go to afterburner and boom instant thrust but props have a little bit of lag no? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew D. the Jolly Rogers guy Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 Actually not as bad as you'd think; in fact they're much more responsive than the original turbojets of the 50's and early 60's, no long spool-up time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jester292 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 That's federally mandated though. At least on the civilian side. Idle to max in 8 seconds is the requirement. Most do it in less. Aaron Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JolyTomcat1 Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 I wish the injured crewmen a quick recovery. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Don Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 Yes indeed here's to a quick and full recovery to all those affected. Don. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Darren Roberts Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 Here's the damage it can do. Watch the yellow shirt jump it not once, but twice! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spongebob Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 (edited) I'm pretty sure they bring the engines up to full power once the wheels hit the deck in case they do miss the wire Not in the E-2. You hold what you have until you don't slow down. If you bring the power up like a jet as the plane traps p-factor will walk the plane over to the left deck edge when you have reduced rudder effectiveness (as you slow down) and no nose wheel steering. Spool up time is 1-2 seconds and the prop will actually increase pitch as the power lever is brought forward leading the engine so going around is usually not an issue. My guess is it parted pretty early. A late parting is one of those "you're fooked" areas in an E-2 or COD. Edited March 19, 2016 by Spongebob Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Slartibartfast Posted March 20, 2016 Share Posted March 20, 2016 The article noted the aircraft boltered and returned to Norfolk. I also wish the best for the injured crew. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Video of the incident has come out. Wow.... That has to be one of the hairiest near-crashes I've ever seen. They had to be dragging their landing gear through the water on this one. http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/4346/this-has-to-be-one-of-the-most-terrifying-carrier-landing-videos-ever As much as it sucked for the flight crew, can you imagine what it was like for those poor guys in back? Only escape for three crewmembers in full gear is through a small overhead hatch. All the while, you've got a massive aircraft carrier passing a few feet away from you at 25 knots. Yikes. Sounds like the cause of the incident was improper maint on the arrestor gear. Also had a pic of a cranial that took a hit from the arrestor cable. Looks like it save the sailor's life. http://imgur.com/Qcltk43 Tough gig, flying and working on a carrier. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Don Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 I bet the crew had to change their flight suits when they landed. Great bit of flying right there ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
82Whitey51 Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Dicey! Any further down the landing area and those guys would have been gone. ...glad I went P-3s after a little bit of COD time :) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TaiidanTomcat Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 CSB Oh god tyler rogoaway. So that's where he landed. I started clicking around and found this gem: It's about the media going straight for sensationalism and spinning stories out of thin air to push an agenda, or just to get clicks. In doing so, the media only hurts the possibility of having a real debate This is the guy who said the F-35 couldn't refuel from trucks based on the color of the fuel bowser. I always thought he had some self awareness. Apparently not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scooby Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 I was in the Ronald Reagan shortly after they had their cable snap on their first work-up cruise. One sailor jumped the cable twice, another lost a leg. I think 12 were injured in total. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yardbird78 Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 Kudos to the E-2 pilots and best wishes for a speedy recovery to those injured. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
82Whitey51 Posted July 10, 2016 Share Posted July 10, 2016 One sailor jumped the cable twice.. I bet he scores well on the bi annual PRT...no body fat measurement on that guy! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jay Chladek Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 I was in the Ronald Reagan shortly after they had their cable snap on their first work-up cruise. One sailor jumped the cable twice, another lost a leg. I think 12 were injured in total. The video link provided I believe has the Reagan incident of which you speak below the E-2C one. Yes, jedi like reflexes to jump that cable twice, although I imagine it can make quite a noise or put a vibration in the deck to make the yellow shirt's "spidey sense" go off like that. As for the crew that got struck, thank goodness for no fatalities. Although the one guy who ended up with a broken pelvis will probably end up with a medical discharge after all is said and done. Major ouch! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wxltcol Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Not necessarily. The object is to get the injured back on duty, not shove them out the door. And a broken pelvis is recoverable from. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
82Whitey51 Posted July 11, 2016 Share Posted July 11, 2016 Not necessarily. The object is to get the injured back on duty, not shove them out the door. And a broken pelvis is recoverable from. If he's smart though, he'll have lots of complications associated with the injury and have Uncle Sam float him a good sized check each month for the rest of his life. :) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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