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A lot ofpeople ask me questions about my LM 11 "Orion" since the Heritagecon x. I willtry to answer it. I was planning to post a review after I finish it because isnot ready. Its missing the figures, the LRV, the ASLEP and some of the trashafter unpacking the MESA. I will upload betterpictures.

Here youhave a few pictures in its temporary base.

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I base myLunar Module in several works produced by excellent Modellers

LM 5 byDavid Weeks http://www.ninfinger.org/models/html_pix/lm.html

LM 6 John Sims I can't find the link to the pictures

LM7 Glenn Johnson http://www.ninfinger.org/models/html_pix/ap13cslm.html

LM 10 Glenn Johnson http://www.ninfinger.org/models/html_pix/ap15lm.html

LM 12 Karl D. Dodenhoff http://www.ninfinger.org/models/ipms1997/97nats14.html

Then came VincentMeens http://spacemodels.n...EM-24/index.htm and Pete Malgete http://www.ninfinger.org/models/html_pix/pmcutawaylm.htmland raise the bar with their work that all of you see in this forum.

Once thing thatI learn for Mike Mackowski and David Weeks, is that you must do your work ofresearch when you prepare to make your model. An once that you think that youfinish, you must do more, because always is something missing. And sometimeswhen you finish the missing link will surface

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But in thisdays everything is more easy. The internet had the power of get the info, if youare willing to look for it.

Historicalinformation for Apollo

https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/frame.html Eric Jones uncover the Apollo era in thisliving document

http://www.retroweb.com/apollo.html Kipp Teague bring the images.

ModellingReference

http://www.ninfinger.org/models/models.html Sven Knudson place is the Bible for the models, everything and I mean everythingis in this web site.

http://www.spaceinminiature.com/ Mike Mackowski hasgreat reference an clear all the obscure points of the real space modeling. SIM7 - Apollo Lunar Module is the one that you would like to use for a projectlike this.

http://www.matirvine.com/ if you really wantto know about modeling techniques buy Matt Irvine Space Spacecraft Modeling itwill give you great tips.

I will recommend toany real space modeler's to enter in the Yahoo group https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/space-modelers/infoover there you can chat with the most resourceful group of people , if you don'tfind something someone over there will help you.

Made your own referencewith pictures drawings etc.

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The Mylar:

I use severalcombinations of materials for the external insulation of the decent stage.Aluminium foil, Mylar and Mylar tape. The trick with them is to find the onethat match the mission that you select to model. In generally all the LM looksa like, but everyone has it charm. To match the colours is a little tricky butnot impossible. Mylar is the best option but you have to shop around forseveral brands to achieve different colours tones. If the colour of the Mylar don’tmatch, use the Tamiya or Gunze clears. Orange, Yellow and Red. Airbrush them inaluminium foil let it dry two days and the apply it to the craft. Use thinlayers of the product until you achieve the desire tone.

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The LM colours

In the darkdays everybody said the LM was silver, only Karl and myself fight against untilMike set it strait and castes in stone in his SIM 7 Book. For my LM's I use theflowing greys Gloss Gull Gray FS 16440 and Light Ghost Gary, I combine them witha match of Pale Green FS 34227. I am not being able to match a pantone card againstthe LM 9 in the Kennedy Space Canter. So I have to really in photos.

Ascent StageColors and simulating the panelling

I use differenttypes of hard tin foil to cover the LM Ascent Stage. First I remove al unnecessarypanelling live the skeleton and cover the LM pane by panel

For colourinformation go to Sven site and look for this document Coatingsand Finishes for LM-10 through LM-14 http://www.ninfinger.org/models/lmspec/lsp-14-0027a_1.htmlor got to Lunar Module Coatings Page by PaulFjeld http://home.earthlink.net/~pfjeld/lmdata/

I use differenttypes of hard tin foil to cover the LM Ascent Stage. First I remove all unnecessarypanelling live the skeleton and cover the LM pane by panel. This technique isnot my, I followed David Weeks lead on this area

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The LM 11 suffera failure in some of the areas of the central Ascent Stage this is recollected in the ALSJ and astronaut CharlieDuke document this in the following image

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I replicated the failure in anomaly in themodel

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Hello Crackerjaz:

I took a paper sheet and airbrush it with flatblack. After it dry I apply humbrol mate cote. In the real LM this material was Inconel #600 foil painted is Pyromark Black. The paint was baked, the small flaws were sprayed black, leavingdark blotches. See the pictures of LM 11in the Grumman plant http://home.earthlink.net/~pfjeld/lmdata/lm11ds.jpg

The best material that I use in my previous LM's were the black envelop that came with the Kodark and Ilford photolab paper, but that material is not available any more to me. My old days in my amater photo lab are over, long time ago in a far and far away country. My lab was replace by Lightroom and Photoshopand, my albums are in Flicrk https://www.flickr.com/photos/ricardo_salame_paez/albums or Facebook.

Keep talking in the cyberspace

Ricardo

Good stuff, Ricardo, thanks! I couldn't help ordering some space blanket from KSC. It looked really beautiful as scale Kapton on your LEM. What color did you use for the black panels?

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Its missing the figures, the LRV, the ALSEP and some of the trash after unpacking the MESA.

Ricardo for your LRV, what will you be using to build it in 1/48? Will it be 3D or scratch built? ... or is there a 1/48 kit out there?

Thanx!

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Pete:

The only kit that I am aware of an LRV in 1/48 is the Marco Miniature. http://www.ninfinger.org/models/marcos/rover.htmlI have it and it's really not a great kit. For this scale there are not many options, personally I think that 3D printing, it's not there yet for scales under 1/32. There is a little uneven on the surface of the pieces that I don't like.It require a lot of sanding, and the kits became very expensive with actual printing prices I just wish that Vince work http://www.ninfinger.org/models/marcos/rover.htmlwork could be used for 1/48. So the way to go is the old fashion scratch build.For me the challenges and been the Wheels and the suspensions.

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Ricardo for your LRV, what will you be using to builjd it in 1/48? Will it be 3D or scratch built? ... or is there a 1/48 kit out there?

Thanx!

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I couldn't get to TorCan and would have loved to have seen this Ricardo. The scratch built interior is ... WOW!!

The exterior is excellent too! The RTG, the broken S-band antenna ... the details are terrific!

I hope to attend either London or Ajax and would love to see your stuff there too!

And I'm not on Facebook ... so I'll just suffer ... :crying2:

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Pete:

I don't think that I will go to London show but I am planning t go to Ajax with my LM-3 Spider

Keep talking in the cyberspace

Ricardo

I couldn't get to TorCan and would have loved to have seen this Ricardo. The scratch built interior is ... WOW!!

The exterior is excellent too! The RTG, the broken S-band antenna ... the details are terrific!

I hope to attend either London or Ajax and would love to see your stuff there too!

And I'm not on Facebook ... so I'll just suffer ... :crying2:/>

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Ricardo! That is a wonderful model of Orion. So you built it mostly by scratch, going by all the great references you listed above? This is 1:48 scale, right? Really, it looks fantastic! Thanks for sharing the pictures and the valuable info.

I am sitting on the fence to finally start building Challenger (Haven't decided yet in which scale).

Best wishes!

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