Pappy121 Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 (edited) G'day people, I would like to play as well! I managed to pick up this last week at our annual second hand kit sale. As I bought the kit pretty cheap, I can spend the $$$ I saved on some other goodies like resin seats and intakes. The start pic The first job was the unpleasant task of removing all the extra airframe lumps and bumps that are not required. My biggest gripe with the Hasegawa Phantom 'family' is the requirement to remove these bumps. I wish Hasegawa had simply added these bits as separate panels or add on details with flashed over holes as it is the most time consuming part of any Phantom build. Rant over, back to regular programming Fist up, I dealt with the main u/c trunnion covers These were cut away with a pair of side cutters until only a small portion remained, then they were further scraped away before finishing off with wet'n'dry paper. I will need to re-scribe lost panel lines, but I need to apply some small smears of putty first. Next up, The lower antennas will also need to be dealt with, cheers, Pappy Edited May 22, 2016 by Pappy121 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scotthldr Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Can't beat a good Phantom, mind you'll need the change the rear stabilizers to the slotted type. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
my favs are F`s Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 I`m so happy to see builds of F planes :woot.gif:/> Beautiful plane - a classic of the classics. Wish you very happy modeling! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EagleAviation Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Nice subject! Good luck on this one! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pappy121 Posted May 22, 2016 Author Share Posted May 22, 2016 (edited) Can't beat a good Phantom, mind you'll need the change the rear stabilizers to the slotted type. Yup! I swapped outa pair from an F-4E kit Nice subject! Good luck on this one! Cheers, it is a good thing I have a great reference book! cheers, Pappy Edited May 22, 2016 by Pappy121 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tobiK Posted May 22, 2016 Share Posted May 22, 2016 Applaus! One of the most iconic greek fighters! I am happy to see this in that GB! And yes, Ioannis Lekkas is more than right to mention his book about THAT Phantom! Come and get that stuff, highly recommended!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crazy Snap Captain Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Yummy! A nice dirty F-4E AUP!!! Looking forward to this baby. Are you going for the dirty look? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pappy121 Posted May 23, 2016 Author Share Posted May 23, 2016 Yummy! A nice dirty F-4E AUP!!! Looking forward to this baby. Are you going for the dirty look? Do I have a choice? :P Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crazy Snap Captain Posted May 23, 2016 Share Posted May 23, 2016 Do I have a choice? :P/> Lol... I guess not! Go forward an get filthy my friend! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pappy121 Posted May 23, 2016 Author Share Posted May 23, 2016 Lol... I guess not! Go forward an get filthy my friend! Cheers Andrew, G'day people, A little more prep work. The rear fairing aft of the cockpit includes two small antennas, these were cut off and the part smoothed off, At the front end, more antennas were removed and a panel is inserted on the right side. I think these are associated with the F-4G version. Meanwhile, I decided to fit some full length resin intakes, but the fuselage halves will need some preparation first,as the kit supplies a truncated intake only Even though I bought the kit cheap, I always find it a bit scary when you first decide to hack into a kit. This is what I ended up with, cheers, Pappy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pappy121 Posted May 24, 2016 Author Share Posted May 24, 2016 G'day people, Well, after taking a saw and files to the intake area, it was time to see if teh resin replacements would play nice with the rest of the kit, Fit seems not too shabby! One other modification that I added to the fuselage was to cut out the small panel on top of the nose. This panel is part of the gun gas venting system and is always open when the jet is on the deck Meanwhile, the wing is together and the seams have been cleaned up A few bits of PE for the main wheel bays Finally, I started work on the inner pylons. Curiously, these feature (restrained) raised detail, whilst the remainder of the kit panel lines are engraved. I think this is a throwback to the early, short nose Hasegawa Phantoms which also feature raised panel details. It is a pity that Hasegawa did not re-tool these when they issued the later long nose Phantoms.The missile rails looks a little anemic as they are too thin. I am trying to decide what they are supposed to be. They are about the correct length for the Aero 3B, but they are too wide and too thin. They look more like LAU-7's, but they are a tad too wide and again too thin. They also have a couple of ejector pin marks which need filling. cheers, Pappy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tobiK Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 For pylons I always prefer the ESCI parts or, much better! the airdoc resin pylon set. Airdoc F-4 sets AFAIK those sets are still available in their shop, just drop them a note and ask for. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jochemp Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 I'll be following this one... looking good! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pappy121 Posted May 27, 2016 Author Share Posted May 27, 2016 (edited) I'll be following this one... looking good! Thanks jochemp, G'day people, I have shifted my focus to the back end. The kit exhausts feature nice turbine face details but otherwise the inside of the exhausts are a little plain. I have added a little PE goodness to improve this area. I will add the PE spray rings after the interiors have been painted up. The kit exhausts are also a little short and lack the corrugated linings of the real items, however I can live with this. There are better resin replacement items available, however I am happy with my results as they are a compromise between absolute detail and cost. The details on the replacement resin exhausts can also be hard to see without a torch once installed as they are buried deep within the fuselage. In any case, this build is not intended a s a 'kitchen sink' build, cheers, Pappy Edited May 27, 2016 by Pappy121 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crazy Snap Captain Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Sweet job on the exhaust interior Pappy. Keep it up! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pappy121 Posted May 28, 2016 Author Share Posted May 28, 2016 Sweet job on the exhaust interior Pappy. Keep it up! Thanks Andrew, G'day people, Having finished cleaning up the wing and fuselage parts, the tub started to get some love at last The AUP's most notable external differences are found in the cockpits. The front and rear instrument panels are very different as they both feature MFD's, one for the front panel and two for the rear.The remaining analogue guages are also re-arranged. I cheated a bit and used a resin panel designed to represent the F-4EJ "Kai" as this only needed a slight modification. The rear panel will require much more work. I began by removing the upper portion as this section will be completely re-built. The upper section was retained and thinned down greatly, as I then sliced it apart and added the required instruments to the lower section. I had previously bought an F-4J/S PE set at a model swap meet for a few bucks. Although much of the cockpit detail is not applicable, by creatively cutting apart the panels , it will be a good source of instruments and placards, some of which were used here. Thanks for looking, cheers, Pappy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brutus Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Very detail build so far ... Keep it up. Looking forward to its completion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pappy121 Posted May 29, 2016 Author Share Posted May 29, 2016 Very detail build so far ... Keep it up. Looking forward to its completion. :thumbsup:/> G'day Brutus, Thanks very much. G'day people, The two instruments panels got a lick of paint and the details were picked out with a fine brush Test fitted to see how they will look in place Not too shabby, cheers, Pappy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pappy121 Posted June 4, 2016 Author Share Posted June 4, 2016 (edited) G'day people, I was wondering what to do about the cockpit sidewalls. The cockpit tub has some really nice details and can look very good with a few minor tweaks and a sharp paint job, but the sidewalls are a little bare by comparison to the real thing which has a lot going on in this area. I remembered that several years ago one of eh vendors at our annual model show was selling off a whole bunch of resin cockpit seconds. these were incomplete sets, flawed castings etc, and he was asking 20c each. I grabbed a handful of this stuff and have slowly been using it here and there. I was going through this stuff when I realised that I had three sidewall elements of a 1/48 F-4J detail set - score! Now I realise that the F-4J is a significantly different animal to the F-4E, but apart from the aft right side, these resin parts will do the job. I am sure all the Phantom Phanciers out there will be rolling their eyes and tutt -tutting about now, and fair enough too, when they build their kit they can get it perfect. For me these resin bits are not just good, they are good enough! Here is what they look like at the moment, Hopefully painting tomorrow if the weather improves cheers, Pappy Edited June 4, 2016 by Pappy121 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pappy121 Posted June 5, 2016 Author Share Posted June 5, 2016 G'day people, I managed to do a little work on the undercarriage today, mainly just adding some hydraulic lines using lead wire and some other details, cheers, Pappy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crazy Snap Captain Posted June 5, 2016 Share Posted June 5, 2016 Pappy, Great work as usual buddy. What do you use to attach the lead wire. I've never had luck doing that sort of thing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pappy121 Posted June 6, 2016 Author Share Posted June 6, 2016 G'day Andrew, Thanks mate. I just use super glue, the cheaper the better. I usually buy the twin pack stuff from Woolies. I do find that the CA tends to oxidise quickly and goes from a very thin water like consistency to very viscous syrup like goo over the course of a couple of weeks. G'day people, A little more work on the undercarriage today, I also made a start on the stores, cheers, Pappy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scotthldr Posted June 6, 2016 Share Posted June 6, 2016 Nice work so far, especially on the legs. Noticed that you have the wrong centerline tank in the pictures, the one you have is carried by the RF-4's, while the F-4E more or else only ever carry the F-15 hi-g style. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pappy121 Posted June 6, 2016 Author Share Posted June 6, 2016 Nice work so far, especially on the legs. Noticed that you have the wrong centerline tank in the pictures, the one you have is carried by the RF-4's, while the F-4E more or else only ever carry the F-15 hi-g style. G'day Soctt, I don't doubt you but I have seen pics of the F-4E (AUP)'s with the older style tank as well. If I had an F-15 style tank I would use it instead but unfortunately the original centreline tank is all I have, cheers, Pappy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pappy121 Posted June 8, 2016 Author Share Posted June 8, 2016 G'day people, I spent today doing some fun stuff at last. The cockpit tub and fuselage sides got some paint, The macro lens is very unforgiving - looks like i need to do some touch ups! Sidewalls next, I have also been busy with ordnance, cheers, Pappy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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