Adam1818 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 I decided that after a few builds I needed to step outside my comfort level and try and build some skills i think i need to work on so time for a full re-scribe experience. I recently picked up 6 kits of a fellow member all of which are raised panel lines but i couldn't pass up the deal and figure why not give it a shot. Ive gotten to comfortable and need to expand my skills. I also hope someone will see this build and want to give it a go as well. Up till now I havent done more then add a few panels and re-scribe a few lines here and there so this will be new to me. Im gonna build it OOB except I may pick up some decals (if anyone has some decent ones sitting around pm me). Im rather surprised at how some details of the kit are better then some newer HAS kits i have seen. The pilot figure is rather nice along with a ground crew figure. The cockpit sidewall detail is really good and the landing gear even has some wiring molded in. The only downside is the panel lines so this could be worth is especially with the price of these kits. Anyways I decided to start out with the wings and tail sections. I also cut out the flaps and ailerons. Im gonna try and add the lights out of colored plastic as seen in a few build also. This prob won't live up too Vedran's F-15E build he is doing as it is amazing and made me choose to do this one first out of the 6 I have but great learning curve. After reading a fair bit on different techniques for a full re-scribe i decided to follow the panel lines with a pin and also using some scribbing templates i have. So far its working out pretty well although i have had a few slips ups that will need some attention. If anyone has any tips throw them my way!! Heres where I'm at :thumbsup:/> Before re-scribe Untitled by Adam Szendrei, on Flickr After re-scribe Untitled by Adam Szendrei, on Flickr Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A-10 LOADER Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Looks pretty good so far. If you don't have any Tamiya Panel Line Accent Color (black), to check your scribing work, grab some. This stuff is awesome and I use it to check my scribing work. It works by capillary action. Steve Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phasephantomphixer Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 And thanks for posting pics, could you add a close up after scribing like the before shot? Thanks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Adam1818 Posted May 26, 2016 Author Share Posted May 26, 2016 Looks pretty good so far. If you don't have any Tamiya Panel Line Accent Color (black), to check your scribing work, grab some. This stuff is awesome and I use it to check my scribing work. It works by capillary action. Steve I do have some actually..I used it on my tomcat for the first time after I seen you use it in your tomcat build 👍🏻 That's why I love arc! So many ideas and help around here Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Adam1818 Posted May 26, 2016 Author Share Posted May 26, 2016 And thanks for posting pics, could you add a close up after scribing like the before shot? Thanks! You bet I will post some tomorrow after I hit it with some panel line wash 👍🏻 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fighting Eighty-Four Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Looks great so far Adam! I really loathe rescribing ever since I had a terrible experience with it in my first attempt, and have not tried to do it again since. I will watch this with great interest, perhaps this will convince me to also step out of my comfort zone and try it again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Yso Posted May 26, 2016 Share Posted May 26, 2016 Looking good. I made some full reschribing in the past too on my models (Revell F-14, Testors F-14, Monogram F-8 Crusader etc...) If someone will take time to do it right, can make a huge upgrade to theese older model kits. (So to say, sometimes theese older kits have less shape issues than the new ones, and on the other hand the detailing is very poor on them. But this can be corrected by a talented modeller. :) ) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Adam1818 Posted May 26, 2016 Author Share Posted May 26, 2016 Thanks guys! i like the challenge and am actually enjoying doing this. Heres where I'm at today! After filling a few slips of the pin and giving a sand with 1000 grit i applied a wash to the new panel lines. So far its looking like my lines are a little shallow as the wash didn't wick properly on some of the panels. To get to this stage I gave each line 3-4 pulls with the pin progressively more pressure. I think though now I'm going to go over the lines with one pull with the scriber to clean them up. Also all these lines are what was on the kit already. I still may add more panels and then possibly some rivets once all the scribing is complete and I'm happy. Heres one of the tails. It was a bit of a challenge going around some of the curves and a few slips happened. Since I slipped on the first pass the line was pretty shallow so instead of having the headache of filling and sanding i did a second pull from the other direction so not to follow the slip and if it went good i simply made it a little deeper so i could lightly sand out the first slip. Its not prefect by any means and will still require some attention. The first pic you can see the slip, second is fixed and third is with a wash Untitled by Adam Szendrei, on Flickr Here you can see the wing panel on the left had one extra pass with the scriber. It took the wash much better. Untitled by Adam Szendrei, on Flickr Untitled by Adam Szendrei, on Flickr Untitled by Adam Szendrei, on Flickr Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Adam1818 Posted May 26, 2016 Author Share Posted May 26, 2016 Last update for the day. Spent the last 2 hours on the top fuselage. Things went ok here but I'm not looking forward to the lower half :wacko:/> Still need to touch up a few lines here but i started making better use of my scribing templates for as much of the lines and hatches as possible to avoid jumping off the raised lines. Also me and my scriber are not on good terms. It likes to be a pain in you know what and jump off track since the needle lines are so thin. I may just give it a few more passed with the pin instead as the lines look better thinner but just need to be deeper Before Untitled by Adam Szendrei, on Flickr After Untitled by Adam Szendrei, on Flickr Untitled by Adam Szendrei, on Flickr Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Yso Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 If you have to schribe exact curves, or "impossible" shapes (what cannot be done with schribing templates or a simple rudder), you can make your own templates from a sheet of plastic. After doing this template, you can use a needle to schribe the surface instead of a scriber. (With the needle you can only make shallow passes, but after doing 3-4-5-7-8 times, the result will be satisfiing. :)/> ) This is what i was doing to my F-14 by my own templates. The wing has some slips too, but this line was more than a "komplex shape", with lots of curves to all direction. :)/> Plus this is how it came out on other surfaces, with riveting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fighting Eighty-Four Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 It looks like you are really getting the hang of this re-scribing thing! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Messersch Posted May 27, 2016 Share Posted May 27, 2016 Superb job with this rescribing task, I will follow this WIP, regards! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Adam1818 Posted May 27, 2016 Author Share Posted May 27, 2016 If you have to schribe exact curves, or "impossible" shapes (what cannot be done with schribing templates or a simple rudder), you can make your own templates from a sheet of plastic. After doing this template, you can use a needle to schribe the surface instead of a scriber. (With the needle you can only make shallow passes, but after doing 3-4-5-7-8 times, the result will be satisfiing. :)/>/>/> )This is what i was doing to my F-14 by my own templates. The wing has some slips too, but this line was more than a "komplex shape", with lots of curves to all direction. :)/>/>/>Plus this is how it came out on other surfaces, with riveting. Thanks for the tip. Im not sure why i didn't think of using some plasticard :thumbsup:/> It looks like you are really getting the hang of this re-scribing thing! Thanks, its getting less stressful every line i pull. Hopefully it will turn out nice in the end Superb job with this rescribing task, I will follow this WIP, regards! Thanks a lot! As stated I'm far from a pro model maker like a lot of the guys on here but i figure maybe me documenting this will help out a few people and encourage them to try something new :thumbsup:/> Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Adam1818 Posted May 27, 2016 Author Share Posted May 27, 2016 So today I took a break from the scribing and wanted to add the anti-collision and position lights. After seeing how much better a kit can look with actual coloured glass that fits right i decided to give it a go. I cut out the shape on the wings and started hacking away. I have an old snowmobile in the garage that I'm in the middle of fixing up that has a cracked tail light so i used the red lens for the donor material. Once i had a tight fit against the wing I glued it with super glue and sanded to shape followed by a polish. Im pretty happy with how it turned out. I just need to find some green material for the other wing tip and add a clear piece to the other vertical stab. Gonna look for a tooth brush at the store this weekend that is clear green to chop up. Heres some pics Untitled by Adam Szendrei, on Flickr Untitled by Adam Szendrei, on Flickr Untitled by Adam Szendrei, on Flickr Untitled by Adam Szendrei, on Flickr Untitled by Adam Szendrei, on Flickr Untitled by Adam Szendrei, on Flickr Quote Link to post Share on other sites
B.Sin Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Thanks for the tip. Im not sure why i didn't think of using some plasticard :thumbsup:/>/> Way to modest. Thanks, its getting less stressful every line i pull. Hopefully it will turn out nice in the end Thanks a lot! As stated I'm far from a pro model maker like a lot of the guys on here but i figure maybe me documenting this will help out a few people and encourage them to try something new :thumbsup:/>/> Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Adam1818 Posted December 22, 2016 Author Share Posted December 22, 2016 Well after i put this one on the back burner for a while i picked back up on the scribing. It got extremely frustrating on the bottom fuselage but after the long break i managed to get it done. The gear doors fit pretty bad but with some filler and lots of crazy glue they seem smooth.I got the nose together and fully re-scribed and sanded smooth with the exception of the nose gear door as it doesn't even come close to fitting so i will be making one from scratch. Next up I will be sanding the seam lines on the fuselage halves and install the wings. Glad to see some progress on this one and the mojo is restored! Its not perfect by any means but its been a great learning experience as i have a few more kits in my collection that need a re-scribe such as the ea-6b and a phantom i have. Untitled by Adam Szendrei, on Flickr Untitled by Adam Szendrei, on Flickr Untitled by Adam Szendrei, on Flickr Untitled by Adam Szendrei, on Flickr Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Major Walt Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Rescribing makes the difference! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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