Don Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 Its almost like they got confused or lost track of what part(s) are needed for which B-52 version and instead ended up producing a FrankenBUFF (a bit of everything all thrown in together making a hybrid BUFF and an almost useless kit to model an accurate B-52). Why/how the more recent model manufacturers get the B-52 so messed up is beyond me. Its not like its a new or classified aircraft; its not like there aren't readily available examples found in museums or gate guards/heritage parks or active flight lines; its not like there aren't drawings, plans, and other reference materials easily obtainable; its not like we don't have B-52 experts and former/current pilots and ground personnel still living and accessible who would, in all likelihood, gladly assist in helping with a models production. Honestly, if Monogram could do it back in 1968 with their 'D' why can't a modern manufacturer today fifty years later? Lets hope MC fixes the issues...but I'm not holding my breath. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spruemeister Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 There are very few model companies left in the world that care about their product as much as the consumers do. Getting a subject 85% (or whatever %) correct is unfortunately the new norm. All I can think of for reasoning is that corporate somehow is pushing the concept of "close enough is good enough; get it out the door." This is hardly the first sub par kit launched at the modeling world. Something egregious is going on in the design and tool up phase that defies explanation in light of the available resources and technology. It can't cost any more to inject an accurate mold than it does to use an inaccurate one. Don's comments are spot on. I think it just boils down to the fact that somebody just doesn't care enough to do it right. And that's sad. I'd love to buy and build an accurate B-52. Until one comes along, I guess I just won't care either. There are other projects I need to do. Rick L. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
engineman Posted August 16, 2018 Share Posted August 16, 2018 The H had a totally different tail gun a 20mm Gatling gun . One of the key differences , and the low bypass TF-33 engines . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AD-4N Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 Well, that’s $100 I won’t spend. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sabre Freak Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 On August 8, 2018 at 11:10 AM, engineman said: Let’s relax and see what’s actually in the kit . I believe the photos are probably developmental test shots . They do have a series of tall tails in development On August 8, 2018 at 11:31 AM, BN7149 said: That's exactly right. On August 8, 2018 at 4:06 PM, Murph said: It's always best to panic early. Regards, Murph Guess we didn't panic early enough? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BN7149 Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 48 minutes ago, Sabre Freak said: Guess we didn't panic early enough? Whoa... why did you quote me? I was endorsing the panic! This Buff is D.O.A. and it was obvious weeks, if not months ago. -Ryan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
engineman Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 (edited) Not entirely true. They could make corrections and produce a good H and a good early G . As for the tall tails , the monogram kit is still the standard, but their late G model is certainly dead . it will require some correction parts Edited August 17, 2018 by engineman Spelling Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Don Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 Well, I certainly wouldn't recommend preordering anymore MC B-52's based on this current release. Regards. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
engineman Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 I wouldn’t pre order . Let’s see the goods Quote Link to post Share on other sites
habu2 Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 2 hours ago, AD-4N said: Well, that’s $100 I won’t will spend somewhere else. fixed.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
engineman Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 Fixed? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hooker169 Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 6 hours ago, Don said: Well, I certainly wouldn't recommend preordering anymore MC B-52's based on this current release. Regards. Especially when THIS 3D render was promised......... But THIS is what was produced..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Don Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 Hooker169 that's ^^^ just too funny...!!! Regards. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AD-4N Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 11 hours ago, habu2 said: fixed.... Yeah, you are right. I'll just buy $100 of something else. But my time of pre-ordering something based on CADs or test shots is long gone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Boyer Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 5 hours ago, Hooker169 said: Especially when THIS 3D render was promised......... But THIS is what was produced..... C'mon, this isn't helping. The Modelcollect kit may not be good, but it isn't THIS toy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hooker169 Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Paul Boyer said: C'mon, this isn't helping. The Modelcollect kit may not be good, but it isn't THIS toy. The post was tongue n' cheek, Paul. AND you're correct, this toy isn't the MC B-52G but I would argue the tail gun area might be more accurate....... Edited August 17, 2018 by Hooker169 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paul Boyer Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 I know that and you know that, but without a smiley, others who don't know better might take it as fact. We don't want to fall into the "fake news" trap!🙄 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Murph Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 10 hours ago, Hooker169 said: No strakelets. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hooker169 Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Murph said: No strakelets. Easy, Murph, no need to panic....😂 Edited August 17, 2018 by Hooker169 Added emoji for context Quote Link to post Share on other sites
engineman Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 How did they blow it on the tail gun , the CAD drawings looked correct for a G gun Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flyboyf18 Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 I've said it before and let me repeat; LACK OF INTERDEPARTMENTAL COMMUNICATIONS!!! In this image what do you see the truck in the fore ground doing. I found the original image online, right down to the red crane!!! I see a recovery vehicle with the 2nd MAN truck raised for towing, right?? Well you cannot build this truck from the parts in the box, a sprue may be missing??? I don't know; couldn't get an intelligent answer from MC?? Based on the instructions all you can build is another towing tractor, with a fifth wheel where the recovery rig should be???? They absolutely need to talk as a group before kits are released, maybe even before that!!!???!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
habu2 Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 3 hours ago, Murph said: No strakelets. That’s because this is the version used by the U.S.AAIRFORCE U.S.AAIRFORCE also had the unique one-piece windscreen. That VNAF insignia on the fuselage is an interesting choice. Flight of the Old Dog....... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Don Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 38 minutes ago, habu2 said: Flight of the Old Dog....... EB-52 Megafortress...still a more accurate B-52 then what MC produced......LOL!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hooker169 Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, Don said: EB-52 Megafortress...still a more accurate B-52 then what MC produced......LOL!!! Flyboy is right, obviously there was a breakdown in coordinating the design and release of this kit. The original CAD drawings were really good but the final product, not so much. But I just don’t see MC as being such a huge corporation that you cant just yell over to the next cubical, “Hey Chuck, I just sent you a revision to the tail, check you’re in-box”! It just reeks of lazy and rushed with little to no QC. BUT,,,,,,,,,, they did listen to the guys complaining of the wing droop problem on the first test build and went back to redesign the entire thing so maybe there’s hope. It’s just frustrating, the F-14 guys have had several really well executed kits over the years, the B-52 has several poor attempts. Both arguably the most iconic combat aircraft in history! Edited August 18, 2018 by Hooker169 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JeffreyK Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Well, it has to be this then: http://www.hphmodels.cz/hph/b-52-stratofortress/?lang=en Jeffrey Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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