Hooker169 Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Strakelet test shots for the G correction set. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tracy White Posted January 25, 2019 Share Posted January 25, 2019 I find whatever paper is under the glass as interesting as the new & improved strakelets! 😁 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Robert key Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 What is the purpose of the strakelets on the G model? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hooker169 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 6 minutes ago, Robert key said: What is the purpose of the strakelets on the G model? It was part of the START treaty to help identify cruise missile capable Buffs. They were added so Soviet spy satellites could differentiate the two from above. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Murph Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 2 hours ago, Robert key said: What is the purpose of the strakelets on the G model? Just to amplify on what Hooker said, they were unique to the G model. The H didn't need them, because all of the H model fleet was assumed for treaty purposes to be cruise missile capable, while only some of the G models were. Regards, Murph Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Robert key Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 could you please tell me the years they were installed. Thanks for the info. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
habu2 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, Hooker169 said: It was part of the START treaty to help identify cruise missile capable Buffs. They were added so Soviet spy satellites could differentiate the two from above. Actually it was related to the SALT II treaty. Not really part of the treaty but an aircraft mod to be in compliance with the treaty. SALT II was ratified in 1979 but I haven’t found a definitive date for the start of the strakelet mod installation. Strakelets were also considered for the H model but the ability of Soviet assets to distinguish the difference between G and H engine nacelles was determined to be sufficient. Edit: connecting the dots, the strakelets were part of the mod to add ALCM (AGM-86) capability to the G. This mod also included OAS. By researching dates for ALCM/OAS mods, it looks like the first strakelet Gs probably started (test) flying in 1980, the first two ALCM/OAS modded Gs were delivered to Griffis in August 1981. The last of the 98 ALCM/OAS modded Gs were delivered in August 1986. . Edited January 26, 2019 by habu2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Robert key Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 Thank you very much,l was assigned. To the 2nd bomb wing in 1981 i don't think we had the mod. G models yet.l left barksdale in sep of 82. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hooker169 Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 (edited) Here they are fitted to the G boxing. The fit looks pretty good. I asked MC about the air scoop on the outboard leading edge missing and he mentioned it was a limitation of the molds, he didn’t elaborate. I surmise that due to how thin the parts are in that area that may be flash or short shots were problematic, just guessing really. Either way it shouldn’t be hard to cut out the inlet. Edit; looking at references again and it looks like the scoop actually may fall outside the strakelet. So once its blended in the opening would be cut out on the wing leading edge. Edited January 26, 2019 by Hooker169 Spelling Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dehowie Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 Have modelcollect decided on how to distribute the G correction sets? Im wondering if its worth getting a G then to correction or if they are going to sell a revised G boxing? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
modelcollect Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 1 hour ago, dehowie said: Have modelcollect decided on how to distribute the G correction sets? Im wondering if its worth getting a G then to correction or if they are going to sell a revised G boxing? we will send replacement part to our seller, if modeler need direct ship from China, its need 15USD, its include all replacement parts and a free missile pack. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ElectroSoldier Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 What is in the missile pack? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tracy White Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 (edited) On 8/25/2018 at 12:24 PM, ChesshireCat said: The forum software won't let me delete this quoted text box that I didn't click for. Help! I'm trapped in a fortune cookie factory! The replacement parts set and missiles were linked to one page earlier. AGM-86 x 4 AGM-109 x 3 AGM-129 x 3 Edited January 27, 2019 by Tracy White typo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dehowie Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 21 hours ago, modelcollect said: we will send replacement part to our seller, if modeler need direct ship from China, its need 15USD, its include all replacement parts and a free missile pack. Awesome thanks. If we order directly from you how do we get you the 15USD? Paypal off the website? Sounds good glad you are going to ship replacements. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
modelcollect Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 19 minutes ago, dehowie said: Awesome thanks. If we order directly from you how do we get you the 15USD? Paypal off the website? Sounds good glad you are going to ship replacements. payment is by paypal from modelcollect.com site. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dutch Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 (edited) On 12/29/2018 at 3:37 AM, Hooker169 said: That’s how I’m going to build mine. I’ll leave off the strakelets, and hopefully Caracal will include a 42nd BW jet in his upcoming G/H release. I’ll have to source 12 harpoons in 1/72 though Hooker, PM me on the 1/72 Harpoons, I may have a few to spare you. Pylons are going to need scratch building, tho. If Kursad includes the 97th "Miss Piggy" G on his sheet, I'll build that one, as I already plan on building a 42nd G with Harpoons in 1/144 by swapping Revell armaments load from H to G. Thanks for working so closely with ModelCollect to fix the G into a decent kit. R/ Dutch Edited January 28, 2019 by Dutch Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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KursadA Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 (edited) Those "BD" markings on the decal sheet (video 6:20 ) look a little oversized to me??? Can anyone with the kit measure their height? Edited January 28, 2019 by KursadA Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Piker38 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 I measure them as c26.5mm high. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KursadA Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Piker38 said: I measure them as c26.5mm high. Thanks. Current official USAF Global Strike Command documentation (AFGSCI 21-105) dictates that the two-letter base code letters on B-52 aircraft to be 42 (forty two) inches high. This is what I used when I designed the Caracal Models B-52H decal sheet , which incidentally includes markings for this same aircraft. Based on photographic interpretation, this value has been the same since the introduction of these markings. 42" / 72 = 0.583 " 0.583 x 25.4 = 14.8mm (approx) The markings on the kit decal sheet are almost comically large. Zeus knows what else is wrong with them - I will hold judgment until I have the kit in my hand. In the meantime, you know where to get accurate decals for the kit. Edited January 28, 2019 by KursadA Quote Link to post Share on other sites
P-38 guy Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 9 minutes ago, KursadA said: Thanks. Current official USAF Global Strike Command documentation (AFGSCI 21-105) dictates that the two-letter base code letters on B-52 aircraft to be 42 (forty two) inches high. This is what I used when I designed the Caracal Models B-52H decal sheet , which incidentally includes markings for this same aircraft. Based on photographic interpretation, this value has been the same since the introduction of these markings. 42" / 72 = 0.583 " 0.583 x 25.4 = 14.8mm (approx) The markings on the kit decal sheet are almost comically large. Zeus knows what else is wrong with them - I will hold judgment until I have the kit in my hand. In the meantime, you know where to get accurate decals for the kit. I planned a head and already have your set. 🙂 Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Murph Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, USAFsparkchaser said: They have ACES II seats for the pilot and copilot. Must be some upgrade program I never heard of. Regards, Murph Edited January 28, 2019 by Murph Quote Link to post Share on other sites
USAFsparkchaser Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 2 hours ago, KursadA said: Thanks. Current official USAF Global Strike Command documentation (AFGSCI 21-105) dictates that the two-letter base code letters on B-52 aircraft to be 42 (forty two) inches high. This is what I used when I designed the Caracal Models B-52H decal sheet , which incidentally includes markings for this same aircraft. Based on photographic interpretation, this value has been the same since the introduction of these markings. 42" / 72 = 0.583 " 0.583 x 25.4 = 14.8mm (approx) The markings on the kit decal sheet are almost comically large. Zeus knows what else is wrong with them - I will hold judgment until I have the kit in my hand. In the meantime, you know where to get accurate decals for the kit. I have your decals as well and all and any B-52 decals I could get my hands on. Hoping you do a lot of the 410 decals that are on your B-52 thread. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Slartibartfast Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 2 hours ago, Murph said: They have ACES II seats for the pilot and copilot. Must be some upgrade program I never heard of. Damn it. This kit is unbuildable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pminer Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 On 11/30/2018 at 6:55 PM, adamitri said: How will modellers know the difference between the kits already released and the re-release ? On 1/28/2019 at 6:02 PM, KursadA said: Thanks. Current official USAF Global Strike Command documentation (AFGSCI 21-105) dictates that the two-letter base code letters on B-52 aircraft to be 42 (forty two) inches high. This is what I used when I designed the Caracal Models B-52H decal sheet , which incidentally includes markings for this same aircraft. Based on photographic interpretation, this value has been the same since the introduction of these markings. 42" / 72 = 0.583 " 0.583 x 25.4 = 14.8mm (approx) The markings on the kit decal sheet are almost comically large. Zeus knows what else is wrong with them - I will hold judgment until I have the kit in my hand. In the meantime, you know where to get accurate decals for the kit. Speaking of your decals....how's the new CD 72077 sheet coming? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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