Drifterdon Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 One of the projects sitting in the queue is to convert Minicrafts 1/144 E-3/E-8 kit into a RCAF CC-137. I have decals but I've come up short on obtaining information on the refueling pods hung under the wing tips. Is there a good diagram showing shape and dimensions that would allow me to scratch a pair in 1/144? If I understand they were manufactured by Beech. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RCAFFAN Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 (edited) Don...When I did the master for the pods in the Leading Edge 1/72 decal set there was very little info available (almost pre-internet days) and I worked from lots of pictures from airshows and such comparing same to the 1/72 Heller 707 kit wing and trying to get the proportions right. I cut up an extra fuel tank from somewhere, scratch built the arm in the retracted position and the nose "rotor" and borrowed a retracted basket from a Fujimi A6 buddy pod. Dave Koss reworked it a bit to strengthen for making the mold and we were quite happy with what he got. I recall that only after it was done did we actually find some real info on measurements but recall that what we got was almost dead on in 1/72 scale. I've moved recently and much is still packed away but the Heller 707 kit is fairly easy to get to due to its size and I believe my copies of the tanks are in the kit box. I will pull them out and give you the measurements when I get a chance but can't help further as I can't recall were we got the actual measurements other than it was in a book or magazine, not on line. They may be on line somewhere now but I've never searched as I was happy with what was produced in 1/72. Yes they were made by Beech and I believe they were also used by the Israelis at one time too so there may be info with a search in that regard. Basically you just need to make it half as big :whistle:/>/> ...Will get back to you on this.... Cheers Bruce Edited July 12, 2016 by RCAFFAN Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scooby Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Bruce, Too bad I didn't know Dave in those days, I had access to the Boeing pods and could have obtained all that information. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bill-TGH Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal11/10301-10400/gal10316-CC-137-McWilliams/00.shtm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bill-TGH Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal11/10201-10300/gal10222-CC-137-Weiler/00.shtm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ALF18 Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal11/10301-10400/gal10316-CC-137-McWilliams/00.shtm Cool. Nice to see my old build. I would love to get the re-issue of the Heller kit, and some of these pods, to redo this beast. Anybody have these in 1/72? ALF Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Drifterdon Posted July 13, 2016 Author Share Posted July 13, 2016 (edited) Bruce, that would be fantastic to get dimensions even in 1/72. Just have to scale down by half and I'm good. Bill, I've been using both of those builds you referred as my inspiration. I love that early look with the lightning bolt insignia down the sides. I picked the complete set of CC-137 decals from CanMilAir and can't wait to get started. Don /> Edited July 13, 2016 by Drifterdon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bill-TGH Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 (edited) http://imgproc.airliners.net/photos/airliners/6/3/6/0073636-v20-16.jpg https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5683/22299331774_f57fc99f8e_o.jpg Edited July 13, 2016 by Bill-TGH Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Falcon053 Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 I actually have a set of these I 1/72. I was looking for some and a guy just set them to me. I tried to ask several times what he wanted in return, never heard back from him. One day I'd love to do it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 One of the projects sitting in the queue is to convert Minicrafts 1/144 E-3/E-8 kit into a RCAF CC-137. I have decals but I've come up short on obtaining information on the refueling pods hung under the wing tips. Is there a good diagram showing shape and dimensions that would allow me to scratch a pair in 1/144? If I understand they were manufactured by Beech. Many years ago I took photos of the Beech 1080 pod at the RCAF Museum, 8 Wing, CFB Trenton. They use to be in the Walkaround section here but I don't see them now. If you want to PM me with your email addy I'll send you what I have. Cheers, Tom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RCAFFAN Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 Don Take Tom up on his offer as all the photos I took for the project (while in my basement somewhere) certainly aren't digital. I will pull out the 707 kit tomorrow afternoon... Cheers Bruce Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MoFo Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 This book has detailed drawings: https://books.google.ca/books?id=nIJsBAAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 Additional photos (B&W) can also be found in the book, In Canadian Service-Aircraft, Boeing CC-137 (707-347C). Cheers, Tom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Drifterdon Posted July 13, 2016 Author Share Posted July 13, 2016 Tom, PM sent regarding pics of the CC-137 walk around pics. Don Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RCAFFAN Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 Don......Sorry to be late here but didn't have access to a computer yesterday. The 1/72 pods are physically 3 and 2/16 ths of an inch long (from front tip to end of basket) and if I use my 1/72 scale ruler that works out to about 18.5 feet long in real life. The diameter (at widest) is about 3/8 ths of an inch or 2 ft 3 inches in real life using the 72nd ruler again. The mounting pylon is about 1 and 5/8 ths inches long at the tank (about 9 feet in real size and about 8 feet 3 inches where it fits on the wing due to the greater angle of slope at the front of the pylon than the rear. I guess in 1/144 the overall length would be about 1 and 9/16 ths of an inch long. HTH Cheers Bruce P.S. I notice the Leading Edge Decals are copyright 1993, so it was quite a while ago...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Drifterdon Posted July 16, 2016 Author Share Posted July 16, 2016 Thanks Bruce and Tom and everyone else that has provided information. It has been extremely helpful. I should be able to scratch build this pod now with relative ease. Don :salute:/> Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dutch Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 (edited) Don, How's your 1/144 RAAF 707-338C & CAF CC-137C tanker projects coming along?  RAAF pods are Sergeant Fletcher, so I think you should be able to rob a set from either the Airfix 1/144 VC10 tanker kit, or from the new Roden VC-10 tanker. CAF CC-137s used Beech IFR pods, which I do not know a source in 1/144.   I do have a 1/72 Leading Edge set and am willing to copy the directions and take some photos of the pods for you. Interested? R/ Dutch Edited November 10, 2016 by Dutch Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dutch Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Brother Don,  I am going to resurrect this thread for a minute. There is still no source for the Beech 1080 IFR pods in 1/144 scale. You would think some enterprising individual would craft some for 3D printing. One can only hope. I have the JBot 1/144 CC-137 decals which I ordered after the demise of CanMilAir. I may shape and scribe some sprue and plasticard to resemble a set of Beech 1080 pods, but I haven't started yet and probably won't as i have several other bench queens to complete and the year is half over.  The RAAF Sergeant Fletcher pods are available in the Hawkeye Models 1/144 707-338C RAAF tanker set AAF-019.   R/ Dutch    Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantom Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 (edited) On 7/12/2016 at 8:00 PM, Bill-TGH said: Â Huh, I still have that model. In fact I am building it again in 1/72 and 1/144 right now for a customer. Both using new decals tne customer supplied from England. Edited June 28, 2019 by phantom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantom Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 On 7/12/2016 at 8:01 PM, Bill-TGH said: http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal11/10201-10300/gal10222-CC-137-Weiler/00.shtm   Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dutch Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Shawn, you do beautiful work!  Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RCAFFAN Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 (edited) Since someone raised the topic from the dead, I thought I could point out that Air-Graphics in England make a 1/72 set now if anyone needs some: https://air-graphics.co.uk/shop?olsPage=products%2Fac-153-beechcraft-refuelling-pods-for-cc-137&page=7 Don't have them so can't comment but his stuff that I do have is nice... Cheers Bruce Edited June 30, 2019 by RCAFFAN Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dutch Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Bruce, thank you for that link. I have ordered a set of Beech IFR pods plus the HH-3F Pelican conversion set as well. Thanks! R/ Dutch Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dutch Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 On 6/27/2019 at 9:30 PM, phantom said: Huh, I still have that model. In fact I am building it again in 1/72 and 1/144 right now for a customer. Both using new decals tne customer supplied from England. Shawn, your latest post of your completed 1/72 & 1/144 CC-137s is amazing. You have my utmost respect. I can see why people ask you to build for them. Cheers! Dutch Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantom Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Thanks. The 1/72 turned out even better! Used decals from a company called 26 decals. Really like them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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