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1/48 Tamiya F-14A

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FYI - Eduard has a bunch of photo etch and Brassin seats for this kit scheduled to come out in January. This is on top of the Brassin wheels due this month.

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The first set of Eduard Tomact wheels for the Tamiya bird is already available...

http://www.ebay.de/itm/401237046129?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

...but unfortunately they are the later style..! I ordered them anyway. I am really looking fwd to this set though:

http://defmodel.com/catalog/htm/ds48009.html

Unfortunately I have not received any response yet to my e-mail about the availability.

 

cheers

Uwe

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On 7.8.2016 at 7:55 PM, dylan said:

as I posted in one of the other threads.

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I will be getting at least 2 of the Tamiya kits. 1 high vis Jolly rogers plane and one black aces. probably another 2 of the AMK kits as well.

 

Hello Dylan

Just spotted this post...! I am after decals for my S-3 Viking and I see you have the Aeromaster CAW-8 sheet! Do you plan on doing the Viking of VS-24 and if not, would you seel this portion of the decals?

 

thanks

Uwe

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5 hours ago, anj4de said:

 

Hello Dylan

Just spotted this post...! I am after decals for my S-3 Viking and I see you have the Aeromaster CAW-8 sheet! Do you plan on doing the Viking of VS-24 and if not, would you seel this portion of the decals?

 

thanks

Uwe

sorry Uwe  I am planning on doing the entire CVW 8....eventually.

one of the italeri S-3 kits comes with them in the box i think

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Didn't want to start a new thread for this question, but is it true that  1/48 Tamiya F-14A does not have the shoulder pylons for the Aim-54? The shoulders can only take the Sidewinder and Sparrow, correct? 

 

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Thank you. I have the kit, but have not looked carefully. But at least the instructions for the A do not give Aim-54 on the shoulders.

 

But looking at your pics, the Phoenix pylons seem to be included if I am not mistaken. They are the ones pointing directly at the wheels in the first pic, I think...

 

I am yet to see a 1/48 Tamiya F-14A build with the Phoenix on the shoulders. More confounding, all the real pics I managed to pull up with that config is either is a B or a D. So now I am questioning whether the A could even carry these on the shoulders. 

 

But, when I was in middle school, I distinctly remember having a sticker of a Tomcat pic with a fully-loaded Phoenix config including the shoulders. That must have been an A!  

 

Sorry, I am unnecessarily confused... The answer to my question is probably straightforward, but my laziness is getting in the way today.

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I believe F-14A could carry 6xAIM-54:

Image1.jpg

 

 

Here I can see this pylon you noticed, but this is F-14D probably. But I think it is the same pylon delivered on sprue on my picture.

Image2.jpg

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That first pic is literally the pic I had a sticker of when I was in the middle school. I remember the tail flash!

 

If the A can carry it (which looks to be the case) and Tamiya includes it, I am a little surprised why I haven't seen any builds with that config, even if it was just for fun. I guess A carrying them like that is rare, but you'd think there would be more builds? 

 

[Bracing myself for a barrage of those kit pics...🙂]

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According to Danny Coremans book this vertical station under the wing glove can be configured with 4 different ordnance including Phoenix. There is no word about F-14D only, so I suppose it includes all Tomcats.

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47 minutes ago, Janissary said:

I am yet to see a 1/48 Tamiya F-14A build with the Phoenix on the shoulders.

Perhaps it's because there are only 4 Phoenix in the kit 

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All F-14's were capable of carrying and employing the AIM-54 Phoenix from either win stations.

 

The reason why you see so few F-14A's with Phoenix's on the wing is because before the Tomcat started doing bombs, Phoenix's were carried on the belly 99% of the time. Carrying Phoenix's on the wing prior to the introduction of the bomb rails was a PITA and a maintenance nightmare so the only time Phoenix's were carried on the wings was when someone wanted to do a photo op, was trying to get the Battle E or someone got a wild hair up their rear and wanted to screw over the Ordies.

 

The reason why it was a PITA is because for years squadrons did not maintain the plumbing in the wing stations for the coolant so when the system was turned on, it leaked like it was raining. Also, the coolant system was required to be "flushed and fill" every so often and when the wing stations were flushed and filled, yep, you guessed it, it would pour out of all the quick disconnects going to the wing. This was a huge maintenance nightmare so squadrons just stopped carrying Phoenix's on the wing since most of the time the load out was 2x2x2, no need to put them on the wing.

 

Then came the bomb rails..................

 

Once the bomb rails came out squadrons were forced to maintain the plumbing to the wing stations since usual load out changed to 1x2x1 with air to ground weapons on the belly. The early 90's were a busy time for Ordnance Shops and squadrons since they were just learning how to load bombs and now had to fix all the plumbing for the wing stations. By the mid 90's all the operational Tomcat's had their plumbing fixed and flying Phoenix's on the wing wasn't a PITA anymore but those early 90's, I bathed in coolantal on a daily basis.

 

Also, when the bomb rails were coming out squadrons started changing over from Alphas to Bravo's and Delta's, along with being decommissioned,  so by the time the fleet started putting Phoenix's on the wing there wasn't that many Alpha squadron as there was prior to 1990.

 

For the Delta's, carrying Phoenix's on the wing was no big deal, they used the AIM-54C+ Phoenix's, which didn't need coolant but for the Alpha's and Bravo's, there were never enough drip pans around when we did a flush and fill.

 

As to why Tamiya didn't include the Phoenix on the wing in the instructions, your guess is as good as mine.

 

GW

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2 hours ago, Janissary said:

 

If the A can carry it (which looks to be the case) and Tamiya includes it, I am a little surprised why I haven't seen any builds with that config, even if it was just for fun. 

 

[Bracing myself for a barrage of those kit pics...🙂]

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Wow looks so cool with the Phoenix on the wing pylons. At least you can see that big a** missile instead of it being buried on the belly. I think on eof the Hasegawa weapons sets has Phoenix missiles in it? I will have to check my sets.

 

 

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22 hours ago, GW8345 said:

All F-14's were capable of carrying and employing the AIM-54 Phoenix from either win stations.

 

The reason why you see so few F-14A's with Phoenix's on the wing is because before the Tomcat started doing bombs, Phoenix's were carried on the belly 99% of the time. Carrying Phoenix's on the wing prior to the introduction of the bomb rails was a PITA and a maintenance nightmare so the only time Phoenix's were carried on the wings was when someone wanted to do a photo op, was trying to get the Battle E or someone got a wild hair up their rear and wanted to screw over the Ordies.

 

The reason why it was a PITA is because for years squadrons did not maintain the plumbing in the wing stations for the coolant so when the system was turned on, it leaked like it was raining. Also, the coolant system was required to be "flushed and fill" every so often and when the wing stations were flushed and filled, yep, you guessed it, it would pour out of all the quick disconnects going to the wing. This was a huge maintenance nightmare so squadrons just stopped carrying Phoenix's on the wing since most of the time the load out was 2x2x2, no need to put them on the wing.

 

Then came the bomb rails..................

 

Once the bomb rails came out squadrons were forced to maintain the plumbing to the wing stations since usual load out changed to 1x2x1 with air to ground weapons on the belly. The early 90's were a busy time for Ordnance Shops and squadrons since they were just learning how to load bombs and now had to fix all the plumbing for the wing stations. By the mid 90's all the operational Tomcat's had their plumbing fixed and flying Phoenix's on the wing wasn't a PITA anymore but those early 90's, I bathed in coolantal on a daily basis.

 

Also, when the bomb rails were coming out squadrons started changing over from Alphas to Bravo's and Delta's, along with being decommissioned,  so by the time the fleet started putting Phoenix's on the wing there wasn't that many Alpha squadron as there was prior to 1990.

 

For the Delta's, carrying Phoenix's on the wing was no big deal, they used the AIM-54C+ Phoenix's, which didn't need coolant but for the Alpha's and Bravo's, there were never enough drip pans around when we did a flush and fill.

 

As to why Tamiya didn't include the Phoenix on the wing in the instructions, your guess is as good as mine.

 

GW

 

EXCELLENT explanation Gary! I asked a VF213 maintainer that I work with now and she said exactly the same thing, SHOWERS for everyone! HAHAHA!

 

Cheers

 

Larry

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On 12/1/2018 at 3:17 PM, GW8345 said:

 

 

As to why Tamiya didn't include the Phoenix on the wing in the instructions, your guess is as good as mine.

 

GW

 

It's there, they just don't mention it in the instructions. For as much detail as Tamiya put into the kit, their instructions sometimes leave a bit to be desired. Another example is in the F-14D kit... if you're building the VF-2 option, they tell you to use the sparrow-well blanking panel used by F-14As and Bs on TARPS-wired jets, when that panel wasn't used in D models. (and I don't recall it being mentioned at all in the A kit, though I think all the options in the F-14A kit pre-date the introduction of TARPS)

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