john53 Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 Has there ever been one? There sure are enough kits according to most forums I belong to. Maybe have kits built OOB with no aftermarket to fix the "glaring" mistakes? I have always wanted to try a Starfix kit!---John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
r0t0rdr1ver Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 LOL, great idea! :lol: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew D. the Jolly Rogers guy Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 ...oh, that's hilarious.... :lol: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Don Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Sounds like fun! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kurt H. Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 (edited) This is a fun idea, are you thinking mostly old blatantly inaccurate kits with scale basketball sized rivets like starfix, ancient lindberg kits, and palmer car kits? Edited September 7, 2016 by Kurt H. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WymanV Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 (Yes, I want to leave this page...) I've been nudging for a Crap Kit Group Build for some time... Ken Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew D. the Jolly Rogers guy Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Well, when you put it like that, "Rubber Dog Crap Out Of Hong Kong" might be the appropriate title for it... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dnl42 Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 That's a hoot! I'm expecting the flaws should be visible and obvious to an informed observer? Hm, perhaps the Lindberg 1/48 F11F-1, which is really the prototype, an F9F-9? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
john53 Posted September 7, 2016 Author Share Posted September 7, 2016 (edited) I think EVERY kit made to this date is inaccurate in some shape or form, with the exception of maybe the new Tamiya F-14A and the Fisher 1/32 resin kits. There could be more.They don't have to be glaring issues, maybe have the kit have a certain amount, say a minimum of 4 or more documented issues, such as wrong shaped canopies, gear legs too long or short, dihedral actually an anhedral, mishappened weapons, kits where flaps only go down but slats and flaps should all go down. Lots of issues to consider, just read some of the reviews!---John Edited September 7, 2016 by john53 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew D. the Jolly Rogers guy Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 I think EVERY kit made to this date is inaccurate in some shape or form, with the exception of maybe the new Tamiya F-14A and the Fisher 1/32 resin kits. There could be more.They don't have to be glaring issues, maybe have the kit have a certain amount, say a minimum of 4 or more documented issues, such as wrong shaped canopies, gear legs too long or short, dihedral actually an anhedral, mishappened weapons, kits where flaps only go down but slats and flaps should all go down. Lots of issues to consider, just read some of the reviews!---John Was thinking the same thing...I mean, c'mon folks, these manufacturers actually use PLASTIC to replicate ALUMINUM airfames...totally inaccurate!!! <_< Seriously, though, I still remember fondly in the Detail & Scale of the F4U Corsair, the review of the Testors F4U-1. It said, boldly in print, that the only part of the entire kit remotely worth using on any model kit was the centerline drop tank! :lol: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Slartibartfast Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Trumpeter 1:32 F-105D is ready-made for this group build. I have a bunch of detail sets to fix it, I would have to install them while documenting the improvements. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
achterkirch Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 I have a hobby boss 1/72 A-7A I wanted to make into a A-7P. This would be the motivation I need to make it! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew D. the Jolly Rogers guy Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 ...maybe "inaccurate kit" could apply to how poorly I built it? :blink: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dnl42 Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 ...maybe "inaccurate kit" could apply to how poorly I built it? :blink: Well, there is that... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Colin K Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 I'd also like to see a "Didn't finish it for that GB" group build. Kit has to be started from a previous GB. Intent is simple. Finish that one kit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rex Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 This could really work well. As long as you let the "inaccurate" determination come from any source at all. Make it not matter if it comes from advice in a book, magazine, online website,,,,,,or a person's own measurements. I saw Starfix mentioned,,,,,,but, remember a Starfix F-5B/T-38A is just as accurate as the Hasegawa/Frog kit. (same mold) Also, let a person do anything they want as to finish, etc. That way, a guy could turn something into a Whiffer, to make use of a kit that he wouldn't build if it were for aftermarket decals. Or a person could bring it up to accurate with resin and work, and use those aftermarket decals on it. If it is left nice and open, we could wind up learning how to fix a bunch of kits that we all have sitting around. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dnl42 Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Are you describing a "Modeling Required" GB? If so, short-run and really old kits would be easy choices. I suppose you could have a build-it-as-it-lays as well as build-it-as-it-should-be entries. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Grandboof Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Maybe the original Airfix Mig 15 or the new one Martin H Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Johnopfor Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 (edited) You can call it the rivet counter's inaccurate kit group build...............every single damn kit ever made would be eligible for the build....... Edited October 9, 2016 by Johnopfor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew D. the Jolly Rogers guy Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 36 minutes ago, Johnopfor said: You can call it the rivet counter's inaccurate kit group build...............every single damn kit ever made would be eligible for the build....... Maybe "Rivet Counter's Nightmare"? How's that for a title? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kurt H. Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 How about the controversial kit GB, Accuracy and crappyness are very much in the eye of the beholder. What about kits where there has been lots of arguing over the years? This would allow many of Trumpeters early 1/32 kits, like the A-10 ,and the F-105, as well as some of the monogram classics like the 1/48th F-105 where some people feel the nose is too pointy, or the F-84F which many argue the fuselage is incorrect, or the newer Revell 1/32 Phantoms where many argue the canopy shape is wrong. There are many such examples This way we can build otherwise good and fairly modern kits, and go about it in a light hearted way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew D. the Jolly Rogers guy Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 16 minutes ago, Kurt H. said: How about the controversial kit GB, Accuracy and crappyness are very much in the eye of the beholder. What about kits where there has been lots of arguing over the years? This would allow many of Trumpeters early 1/32 kits, like the A-10 ,and the F-105, as well as some of the monogram classics like the 1/48th F-105 where some people feel the nose is too pointy, or the F-84F which many argue the fuselage is incorrect, or the newer Revell 1/32 Phantoms where many argue the canopy shape is wrong. There are many such examples This way we can build otherwise good and fairly modern kits, and go about it in a light hearted way. Okay...how about "Rivet Counter's Revenge" GB? :) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rex Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 (edited) well, if it is going to be named as an insult to a large group of modelers,,,,,,,,,,I will just keep "building offline" I think dem ebil rivet counters should just stop answering questions. And making masters, and sending stuff to other modelers, etc, etc Edited October 10, 2016 by Rex Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cool Hand Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 For this to work, I think the kits meet the requirement of having an obvious shape issue. For example, I cant obviously see the flaws in any of the mentioned F-105 kits, but an Academy 1/48 F-14 is clearly misshapen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew D. the Jolly Rogers guy Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 (edited) 4 hours ago, Rex said: well, if it is going to be named as an insult to a large group of modelers,,,,,,,,,,I will just keep "building offline" I think dem ebil rivet counters should just stop answering questions. And making masters, and sending stuff to other modelers, etc, etc Didn't mean it as an insult at all, sincerest apologies that it was taken that way. If any insult was intended, it was surely directed at the kit, and not the builder. I withdraw my previous suggestions. Edited October 11, 2016 by Andrew D. the Jolly Rogers guy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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