Craig Baldwin Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 I am a bit surprised nobody has mentioned anything about this yet. http://www.zoukeimura.co.jp/en/sentiment/oyajiblog_088.html Personally I am waiting for the 1/48 D but will have to see my bank balances at the time. The S was great with the start of the low viz markings era. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantomdriver Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 I will be happy when they produce the Spey powered models... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ben Brown Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Right after I finished correcting the Hasegawa kit! You're welcome! It looks like he got the slats right. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Craig Baldwin Posted October 22, 2016 Author Share Posted October 22, 2016 1 hour ago, phantomdriver said: I will be happy when they produce the Spey powered models... Sounds like that will be the last they would do, and understandably, the biggest investment for retooling. But still think it will have no problem selling. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantomdriver Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 not at all... they will fly off the shelves,as will the others... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JEN722 Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 4 hours ago, Ben Brown said: Right after I finished correcting the Hasegawa kit! You're welcome! It looks like he got the slats right. Ben, I am curious as to what corrections you are doing on the Hasegawa F-4S. Belly strap, altered vents next to nose gear bay and aux. air intake. Did I miss anything (except for the slat profile)? Jens Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantomdriver Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 I will be collecting my J from ZM's booth at Telford in 3 weeks time, I will let you know what I think.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Neo Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Dam and i just went and got the academy kit... But btw this has benn mentionned one or 10 time here !! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Laurent Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 14 hours ago, phantomdriver said: not at all... they will fly off the shelves,as will the others... For a producer I believe that what really matters is how many boxes and how much time it takes to fly off the shelves. This depends on the price customers are willing to pay for the kit. The faster break-even is reached, the more sales will finance development and tooling of later boxings and future projects. I hope that ZM F-4J will be successful. I will buy an S as I want to do a Ferris camo: I've built a 1/72 Italeri F-4S when I got back into modeling. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Craig Baldwin Posted October 23, 2016 Author Share Posted October 23, 2016 8 hours ago, Neo said: Dam and i just went and got the academy kit... But btw this has benn mentionned one or 10 time here !! Sorry, I was referring to specifically the "S" model mentioned and shown in the blog. Yes I knew most were aware of the upcoming J release. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ben Brown Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 11 hours ago, JEN722 said: Ben, I am curious as to what corrections you are doing on the Hasegawa F-4S. Belly strap, altered vents next to nose gear bay and aux. air intake. Did I miss anything (except for the slat profile)? Jens Hi Jens, Those were the main things I did. I also added the Sparrow tune antenna, under the starboard ACS scoop, and corrected the wing fences. I cut off the four antenna that are molded into the lower wing and replaced them with leftovers from the Academy F-4B, and I did some sanding on the two long fairings on the intakes to make them look more like the real thing. Then there were the usual Hasegawa F-4 mods, like aftermarket cockpit, intakes, exhausts, drooped the ailerons, boxed in the aux air intakes, improved the intake on the fin, etc. Ben Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fulcrum1 Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Interesting they're not doing a B. "It's up to you to keep us running until we complete the whole series of F-4 Phantom, from the J-type to the S, C, D, J (Marine ver.) types, then to each E, F, G and EJ long-nose types, to eventually finish with the Spey engine mounted types. I'm going to pick up the J as those pictures of the showtime aircraft look really good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mingwin Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 Wow! beautiful Phantoms! this gonna hurt my wallet in a way it never was before (for modeling!) i'll take at least one of each! ...but at that price, i'll keep all my Hasegawa Phantoms in my stash (and eventually build them all) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Craig Baldwin Posted October 23, 2016 Author Share Posted October 23, 2016 (edited) I love the detail of the canopy and sills. The actual aircraft to me always seemed to have a closed in feel in that area and most kits did not really represent that to me. Edited October 23, 2016 by Craig Baldwin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
madmanrick Posted October 23, 2016 Share Posted October 23, 2016 I would be shocked if they do all those versions and skip the B variant. That having been said, it won't be the first or last time, if it happens. I could see it making sense IF the Academy release was of comparable quality, but given the inaccuracies of the Academy kit, there is room for a definitive B. Rick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Roof Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 I do find it odd that an F-4B/N wasn't mentioned either, as there are cockpit parts for the B/N on sprues H and I in the F-4J kit. The engineering, design and fit of the parts are also on par with the Tamiya F-14. One interesting item is the cockpit/nose wheel well. They are integral and you can't replace one without the other, so the aftermarket guys might have a tough time with this area. To be quite honest, there really isn't a need for aftermarket on this kit. Compared to reference photos, the cockpit is pretty damn close to the real thing and they got details on the ejection seats that I've never seen done before, in kits or resin. When I compared my kit to the Academy J, the only advantage the Academy kit has is the single piece fuselage. The Z-M kit is better in every other way. Simply put, I don't think I'll ever get an Academy Phantom again, regardless of the price. The Z-M F-4J and Tamiya F-14A have literally been responsible for me getting my modeling mojo back and I'm almost done building both kits! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fulcrum1 Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 I found in another interview with SWS mentioning they would do a B. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fulcrum1 Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 2 hours ago, madmanrick said: I would be shocked if they do all those versions and skip the B variant. That having been said, it won't be the first or last time, if it happens. I could see it making sense IF the Academy release was of comparable quality, but given the inaccuracies of the Academy kit, there is room for a definitive B. Rick Where and what are the inaccuracies on the Academy kit? I heard the intakes are too narrow, but have been trouble finding overhead shots of the real aircraft. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Roof Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 10 minutes ago, fulcrum1 said: Where and what are the inaccuracies on the Academy kit? I heard the intakes are too narrow, but have been trouble finding overhead shots of the real aircraft. The intakes are off, the scoops on the sides of the nose are in the wrong location, the horizontal stabs are incorrectly proportioned (the natural to painted surface) and a few other odds and ends. When you compare built up photos of the Academy kit to the Z-M kit, you'll see that Z-M's attempt just captures the look of the Phantom better overall. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scooby Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Wow, I thought this kit was still in development! absolutely stunning! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alpagueur Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 (edited) your favorite F-4S livery? it seems there are not so many interesting lo-viz schemes to choose from, isn't it? Edited October 24, 2016 by Alpagueur Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantomdriver Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 (edited) 8 hours ago, Dave Roof said: The intakes are off, the scoops on the sides of the nose are in the wrong location, the horizontal stabs are incorrectly proportioned (the natural to painted surface) and a few other odds and ends. When you compare built up photos of the Academy kit to the Z-M kit, you'll see that Z-M's attempt just captures the look of the Phantom better overall. scoops,and stabs were already covered courtesy of Hypersonic models Edited October 24, 2016 by phantomdriver Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantomdriver Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 9 hours ago, Dave Roof said: I do find it odd that an F-4B/N wasn't mentioned either, as there are cockpit parts for the B/N on sprues H and I in the F-4J kit. The engineering, design and fit of the parts are also on par with the Tamiya F-14. One interesting item is the cockpit/nose wheel well. They are integral and you can't replace one without the other, so the aftermarket guys might have a tough time with this area. To be quite honest, there really isn't a need for aftermarket on this kit. Compared to reference photos, the cockpit is pretty damn close to the real thing and they got details on the ejection seats that I've never seen done before, in kits or resin. When I compared my kit to the Academy J, the only advantage the Academy kit has is the single piece fuselage. The Z-M kit is better in every other way. Simply put, I don't think I'll ever get an Academy Phantom again, regardless of the price. The Z-M F-4J and Tamiya F-14A have literally been responsible for me getting my modeling mojo back and I'm almost done building both kits! so presumably, you got a ZM "J" for review purposes, ahead of the release? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
a4s4eva Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Wish it was an E or G Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantomdriver Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 read "The Old Man Blog".... you will see they are in development.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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