82Whitey51 Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 (edited) ...with a scale modeling tie in at the 2:48 mark. And some pretty horrendous "deployment staches". http://www.wearethemighty.com/articles/a-10-hawgs Edited November 6, 2016 by 82Whitey51 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Murph Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Why is it in slow motion? Oh... Wait... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nspreitler Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Really cool. The A-10 is fantastic, no other fixed wing is nearly as effective in danger close situations. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A-10 LOADER Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 I really miss working on her, great platform. Steve Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TaiidanTomcat Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 It's the greatest ever. they should give these to the army. the air force never liked it. the grunts love it and only it. grunts are always right. these will beat ISIS. ISIS prays these send them to valhalla Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nspreitler Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 We can replace them with F-35s, it has a gun with 1/6th the ammunition. Instead of BRRRRT we will just get BR. I do know of situations against ISIS where the results would have been very different without those 1174 rounds of 30mm. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TaiidanTomcat Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 14 hours ago, nspreitler said: We can replace them with F-35s, it has a gun with 1/6th the ammunition. Instead of BRRRRT we will just get BR. I do know of situations against ISIS where the results would have been very different without those 1174 rounds of 30mm. True. And It's all about the gun. it's been that way since world War 2. A-10s do great against serious opposition too. They were in downtown Baghdad day 1 everytime. unlike those brrrrtless other aircraft Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nspreitler Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 If you need to get in close the gun is by far the best choice. If you have a lot of targets, like infantry attacking across several kilometers they are great. I have coordinated CAS for units in contact with less than 100 meters of separation between forces, I have seen what the A-10 can do and there is no way the F-35 with 180 rounds would have had the same effect in that situation. The A-10 can't do everything, and neither can the F-35. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TaiidanTomcat Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 A-10 like the F-15, is undefeated in air combat Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fulcrum1 Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Ken Cartwright Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 21 hours ago, TaiidanTomcat said: All the ills of the A-10 can be cured by more A-10. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Sabre Freak Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 Oh, no! Another save/scrap the A-10 animosity thread! Need to deescalate: So who'd ya vote for? (Kidding about the question part) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marcinko Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 On 11/9/2016 at 7:39 PM, TaiidanTomcat said: F-15, is undefeated in air combat Says whom ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TaiidanTomcat Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 (edited) 4 hours ago, marcinko said: Says whom ? basically Everyone the USAF for one, here is the official line from Boeing: Boeing has continued to evolve the F-15 with advanced technology, and it is undefeated in air-to-air combat — 101 aerial victories and 0 defeats. Production continues today with advanced models for several international customers. Edited November 12, 2016 by TaiidanTomcat Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marcinko Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 There are a lot of kills contested (from memory at least 2 Fulcrums and even older generations contested) and there`s consensus that at least one F-15A fell pray to a Syrian Foxbat Take with a huge grain of salt what Boeing says, you remember what the military & Bush were saying after Desert storm regarding Patriot ? Lets just say the GAO report on Patriot performance painted a different picture Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Murph Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 8 hours ago, TaiidanTomcat said: basically Everyone the USAF for one... Not to mention the pilots that have flown the F-15, but hey what would we know about its record in air combat. Regards, Murph Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 On 11/9/2016 at 0:39 PM, TaiidanTomcat said: A-10 like the F-15, is undefeated in air combat That's awesome but irrelevant. The only track record that matters is how well they will do in the next war. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TaiidanTomcat Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 (edited) 6 hours ago, marcinko said: There are a lot of kills contested (from memory at least 2 Fulcrums and even older generations contested) and there`s consensus that at least one F-15A fell pray to a Syrian Foxbat Take with a huge grain of salt what Boeing says, you remember what the military & Bush were saying after Desert storm regarding Patriot ? Lets just say the GAO report on Patriot performance painted a different picture Official is official. it's globally recognized that it's never been shot down in air to air combat, conspiracy theories and irrelevant comparisons aside. Have a good one. we hear you complaining, we aren't changing, but thanks anyway Edited November 12, 2016 by TaiidanTomcat Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TaiidanTomcat Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 1 hour ago, 11bee said: That's awesome but irrelevant. The only track record that matters is how well they will do in the next war. That's ridiculous. you can lose like 6 of them and have them pulled back, in 1991 and maintain its invincible cred. Clearly its performance in the future is irrelevant Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 (edited) 14 minutes ago, TaiidanTomcat said: Official is official. it's globally recognized that it's never been shot down in air to air combat, conspiracy theories and irrelevant comparisons aside. Have a good one. we hear you complaining, we aren't changing, but thanks anyway TT, that being said, I don't think there are any concerns about the US record but with regard to the Eagle in Israeli service, it's not quite as black and white. From previous wars, the Israeli's have a demonstrated record of attributing many known A2A losses to enemy SAM's instead. Maybe it's possible that they have lost an F-15 to another aircraft. In the end, if the record is 101 to 0 or 101 to 1, does it really matter? And since the overwhelming majority of all F-15 kills were against 3rd world nations who flew inferior equip, used inferior tactics and were pretty much overwhelmed from the get go, I would suggest that any chest beating over the Eagle's kill record is a bit misplaced anyway. Would anyone suggest that if the enemy was a peer adversary, we'd still be talking about a 101 to 0 kill ratio? Keep in mind that the Might Tom also has a perfect A2A record as well (god bless their aluminum souls). Edited November 12, 2016 by 11bee Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TaiidanTomcat Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 39 minutes ago, 11bee said: TT, that being said, I don't think there are any concerns about the US record but with regard to the Eagle in Israeli service, it's not quite as black and white. From previous wars, the Israeli's have a demonstrated record of attributing many known A2A losses to enemy SAM's instead. Maybe it's possible that they have lost an F-15 to another aircraft. In the end, if the record is 101 to 0 or 101 to 1, does it really matter? And since the overwhelming majority of all F-15 kills were against 3rd world nations who flew inferior equip, used inferior tactics and were pretty much overwhelmed from the get go, I would suggest that any chest beating over the Eagle's kill record is a bit misplaced anyway. Would anyone suggest that if the enemy was a peer adversary, we'd still be talking about a 101 to 0 kill ratio? Keep in mind that the Might Tom also has a perfect A2A record as well (god bless their aluminum souls). Youre right it only makes the perfect in air to air A-10 even better. it's truly perfect Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Don Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Wait a second, here's a USAF F-15 pilot who got shot down... ...over the U.S. nonetheless! LOL! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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