shion Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 Thank you.🙏 I would never guess these ones. So, M/T for empty, it makes sense. And S/B for Standard Ballast. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Finn Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 (edited) The S/B for Standard Ballast is just a guess on my part. Here is another one that looks to have been written on several times: note RDY indicates the gun is ready which means it can be fired when selections are made. Jari Edited June 21, 2018 by Finn Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 What is that button he has depressed with his thumb? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scooby Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 2 hours ago, Mstor said: What is that button he has depressed with his thumb? Gun switch, we called it the pop can. This one has gun info on it, HEI is high explosive incendiary. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GW8345 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 (edited) I believe S/B stands for Standard Belt, I.E. 350 rounds Not sure what the M/T stands for. The USN does not use rounds as ballast. Different squadrons/CAG's have different markings they place on the gun panel, it all depends on what the CAG Gunner wants. Edited June 21, 2018 by GW8345 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 2 hours ago, Scooby said: Gun switch, we called it the pop can. This one has gun info on it, HEI is high explosive incendiary. Thanks Scooby. In the pic there is a line drawn from the button he is depressing to what looks like another button. What is the purpose of these and why the line being drawn? Sorry to ask so many questions, its just all very interesting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scooby Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 49 minutes ago, Mstor said: Thanks Scooby. In the pic there is a line drawn from the button he is depressing to what looks like another button. What is the purpose of these and why the line being drawn? Sorry to ask so many questions, its just all very interesting. Chaff/flare arm is the forward button, the smaller one on the gun access door. Both are circled and a line is drawn between the two. It’s a reminder to arm the chaff, follow the line to the gun to arm in that order. The H next to the gun arm switch indicates the gun is Hot (rounds are run up the drum to the gun). It is essentially a reminder to complete those two tasks just before take-off. As well as a reminder that this jet left hot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, Scooby said: Chaff/flare arm is the forward button, the smaller one on the gun access door. Both are circled and a line is drawn between the two. It’s a reminder to arm the chaff, follow the line to the gun to arm in that order. The H next to the gun arm switch indicates the gun is Hot (rounds are run up the drum to the gun). It is essentially a reminder to complete those two tasks just before take-off. As well as a reminder that this jet left hot. Thanks again Scooby. Fascinating stuff. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Finn Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 Actually Gary not quite 😉, the smaller button that is circled is for the holdback handle, which mechanically allows the rounds to be fed to the gun the C/F arm switch is to the right as you can see in this pic: Jari Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scooby Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 I should have known that was the holdback, similar to our CF-18s. I knew the Super Hornet had a second arm switch to the right of the gun arm. WhenI replied I actually stated what I read on another site and trusted it despite my instincts telling me it was wrong. I couldn’t see the chaff arm because his hand was in the way. Thank Yari, you were the armorer not me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scooby Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Mstor said: Thanks again Scooby. Fascinating stuff. Yari corrected me, which I should have known. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Finn Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 The holdback handle is to the left of the pip pin of the panel support arm in this pic: here is another example of writing on the gun door: this pic shows the gun and C/F safety switches extended: Jari Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 Thanks guys, very interesting tidbits of info. Having the switches extended my be an interesting little detail to add for a diorama similar to the last pic posted. And, of course, I need to know these things before my personal F-18 is delivered Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Be kinda cool if one of the aftermarket decal outfits included those markings. I suppose it'd be just as easy to hand write them using a very sharp, white colored pencil. Seems to be a detail missed on most (all?) Hornet models. Sounds like if the aircraft is modeled with live weapons (ie - flying an operational sortie) it should have those gun / countermeasure status markings as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 1 hour ago, 11bee said: Be kinda cool if one of the aftermarket decal outfits included those markings. I suppose it'd be just as easy to hand write them using a very sharp, white colored pencil. Seems to be a detail missed on most (all?) Hornet models. Sounds like if the aircraft is modeled with live weapons (ie - flying an operational sortie) it should have those gun / countermeasure status markings as well. Or an aircraft without ordnance and a smudge of white where the crew tried, half-heartedly, to erase the markings? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scooby Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 On 6/22/2018 at 12:20 AM, Mstor said: Thanks guys, very interesting tidbits of info. Having the switches extended my be an interesting little detail to add for a diorama similar to the last pic posted. And, of course, I need to know these things before my personal F-18 is delivered When the cans are out the outside is red, which is what we called them coke cans. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scooby Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 2 hours ago, 11bee said: Be kinda cool if one of the aftermarket decal outfits included those markings. I suppose it'd be just as easy to hand write them using a very sharp, white colored pencil. Seems to be a detail missed on most (all?) Hornet models. Sounds like if the aircraft is modeled with live weapons (ie - flying an operational sortie) it should have those gun / countermeasure status markings as well. Fundekals did on their WWII FAA Corsair sheets, guns loaded in chalk decals are included. But you are likely talking modern day. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 20 hours ago, Scooby said: Fundekals did on their WWII FAA Corsair sheets, guns loaded in chalk decals are included. But you are likely talking modern day. I was but that's pretty cool that Jennings / Fundekals caught something so minor. Good attention to detail. I'm thinking a white water color pencil, finely sharpened, would probably do the trick. Certainly don't have to worry about neat penmanship. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GW8345 Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 21 hours ago, Scooby said: When the cans are out the outside is red, which is what we called them coke cans. USN Ordies use to call them "beer cans", not sure if they still did though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scooby Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 3 hours ago, GW8345 said: USN Ordies use to call them "beer cans", not sure if they still did though. We referred to them as both, the wing fold cans were likely referred to as Coke Cans more often. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scooby Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 4 hours ago, 11bee said: I was but that's pretty cool that Jennings / Fundekals caught something so minor. Good attention to detail. I'm thinking a white water color pencil, finely sharpened, would probably do the trick. Certainly don't have to worry about neat penmanship. There was very good footage and details in the FAA film they had which they designed the decals from. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Finn Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 SH getting gas: Jari Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brian P: Fightertown Decals Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 On 6/23/2018 at 7:08 AM, 11bee said: Be kinda cool if one of the aftermarket decal outfits included those markings. I suppose it'd be just as easy to hand write them using a very sharp, white colored pencil. Seems to be a detail missed on most (all?) Hornet models. Sounds like if the aircraft is modeled with live weapons (ie - flying an operational sortie) it should have those gun / countermeasure status markings as well. Fightertown Decals has been doing these on sheets for years. Check out any of the Superhornet Airwing and Superhornet Ball sheets, and some of the earlier sheets. Lots of gun door markings! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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