Gordon Shumway Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 4 hours ago, superannuated said: That in itself is scary. If you think that he is "a career businessman and thinks like one even when he will be POTUS", guess you don't care about Social Security. I'm sorry but when did President [elect] Trump say anything about not caring about Social Security? I mean I followed the 2016 US election cycle from pre-primaries through to the general and do not recall him mentioning anything about not caring for Social Security. In fact I recall him staying he will keep it funded and even keep the retirement age to 65. Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 5 hours ago, Gordon Shumway said: I'm sorry but when did President [elect] Trump say anything about not caring about Social Security? I mean I followed the 2016 US election cycle from pre-primaries through to the general and do not recall him mentioning anything about not caring for Social Security. In fact I recall him staying he will keep it funded and even keep the retirement age to 65. Only problem with that is he hasn't explained how he will do it. He's got many plans for increased spending, including drastically up-sizing the military, helping corporations keep business in the US (apparently through multi-million dollar tax breaks), building Great Walls and keeping SS funded. Only minor problem is that none of his plans mention in any detail how all this will be funded since he's also promised significant corporate tax breaks. To get the necessary funds, he's only mentioned that he'll save billions by going after entitlement programs (wait, isn't SS one of those?). Can't sweat minor points like those I suppose. I'm confident it will all work out. Link to post Share on other sites
TaiidanTomcat Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 (edited) There is going to be a long gap between what trump's opponents say he does vs what he says he does vs what he actually does. The problem is people do not listen to what others say, but listen to what OTHERS say they say. Edited December 11, 2016 by TaiidanTomcat Link to post Share on other sites
TaiidanTomcat Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 5 minutes ago, 11bee said: Only problem with that is he hasn't explained how he will do it. He's got many plans for increased spending, including drastically up-sizing the military, helping corporations keep business in the US (apparently through multi-million dollar tax breaks), building Great Walls and keeping SS funded. Only minor problem is that none of his plans mention in any detail how all this will be funded since he's also promised significant corporate tax breaks. To get the necessary funds, he's only mentioned that he'll save billions by going after entitlement programs (wait, isn't SS one of those?). Can't sweat minor points like those I suppose. I'm confident it will all work out. This is a total first Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 2 minutes ago, TaiidanTomcat said: This is a total first In this case, pretty much. BTW - Love your Make ARC Great Again tag. LOL! Link to post Share on other sites
TaiidanTomcat Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 (edited) 21 minutes ago, 11bee said: In this case, pretty much. Only if this is your first BBQ Edited December 11, 2016 by TaiidanTomcat Link to post Share on other sites
habu2 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Boeing is more concerned about Trump's foreign trade policies than about this "trumped up" AF1 story. Look at how much business Boeing does with China and how China's reaction to Trump's proposed 35% import tariffs could affect Boeing's business there. We're talking the potential for trillions, not mere billions...... Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 39 minutes ago, habu2 said: Boeing is more concerned about Trump's foreign trade policies than about this "trumped up" AF1 story. Look at how much business Boeing does with China and how China's reaction to Trump's proposed 35% import tariffs could affect Boeing's business there. We're talking the potential for trillions, not mere billions...... Agreed. Nothing like a global trade war with our biggest economic partner to stimulate our economy. I wouldn't be surprised to see some of BA's existing orders with China cancelled, just so they can demonstrate their displeasure with Trump's call with the Taiwanese president. Link to post Share on other sites
Scooby Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 2 hours ago, habu2 said: Boeing is more concerned about Trump's foreign trade policies than about this "trumped up" AF1 story. Look at how much business Boeing does with China and how China's reaction to Trump's proposed 35% import tariffs could affect Boeing's business there. We're talking the potential for trillions, not mere billions...... Trump could kill Boeing. I pity that Americans don't realize how dangerous his ideals are. Link to post Share on other sites
Gordon Shumway Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 (edited) 5 hours ago, 11bee said: Only problem with that is he hasn't explained how he will do it. He's got many plans for increased spending, including drastically up-sizing the military, helping corporations keep business in the US (apparently through multi-million dollar tax breaks), building Great Walls and keeping SS funded. Only minor problem is that none of his plans mention in any detail how all this will be funded since he's also promised significant corporate tax breaks. To get the necessary funds, he's only mentioned that he'll save billions by going after entitlement programs (wait, isn't SS one of those?). Can't sweat minor points like those I suppose. I'm confident it will all work out. No politicians during election campaigns say how they truly will do most of anything. Trump is only different in that he thinks differently than a true politician. This what endears him to his base and scares the Hell out of the establishment. How he will be a POTUS remains to be seen but he is changing things even now only as President elect. That said SS has a road through Congress and not just the W.H. Edited December 11, 2016 by Gordon Shumway Link to post Share on other sites
Gordon Shumway Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 (edited) Boeing will be just fine. There will be no trade war with China. But China and any others can't just expect business as usual under Trump. It's ok for the USA to stand up for itself. The USA does control the roost. Every intelligent nation wants to do business with the USA. Trump sees that and how the USA has the proverbial hammer and not any other including China. IT WILL BE OK FOLKS AND LIKELY BETTER NOW! How about we let the man be sworn into office first? There will be time enough for his naysayers to build his crucifix ok? Edited December 11, 2016 by Gordon Shumway Link to post Share on other sites
Alvis 3.1 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 (edited) On 12/9/2016 at 10:32 AM, MacStingy said: So Trump has cancelled his new ride. What are my friends to the south saying about this? Our PM has an Airbus. Is this like showing up to the front of the Oscars in a Hyundai? Has Boeing just gotten too comfortable? Leave politics out or I'll get blacklisted. I think that pretty much sums up what the OP was looking to not have happen. Trust me MacStingy, I won't be putting you on any blacklists for this. Maybe one of the Gunship Grey ones. I think this has run the full course. Thank you for your input and all that. Al P ARC Moderation Team Edited December 11, 2016 by Alvis 3.1 Link to post Share on other sites
SBARC Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 We need a "like" button for how politely Al P does things. Link to post Share on other sites
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