K2Pete Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 (edited) This is gonna be a little different. I want to show all the materials I use to build up a Lunar Module. The kit is from around 1968 ... and I have a before and after model but I want to build one, using damaged kits I got on ebay and build this one up, but it will have no paint ... just bare bones to show Resin, Styrene and various metals. And a couple of the donor 'kits'. I've got a couple other models nearing completion and when they're done in the next couple weeks, I'll be back! Till then ... Edited January 10, 2018 by K2Pete Quote Link to post Share on other sites
airmechaja Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 I will be watching this with allot of interest. I built that kit as a teenager. Dean Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantom Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 What a neat idea, looking forward to it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crowe-t Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 A bare bones model, what a great idea Pete! I remember we spoke about something like this a while ago. We were saying that it's cool to see a model that's been modified right before it gets painted. To see what went into it. Maybe you remember. Mike. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
K2Pete Posted January 10, 2017 Author Share Posted January 10, 2017 (edited) Mike, I've spoken to a few different guys about this idea, so I may have mentioned it to you too. Thanx for stopping by! Nice to see ya here Phantom. Maybe I'll see you at HeritageCon! I really wanted to use the silver one, but it didn't have enough donor parts, plus the White one is what the "before" looks like, so I'll use the White model. In addition to a lot of scratch building, I'll be using this LM update set from New Ware, Resin and PE. I've build these kits, in every scale, from every manufacturer. i'm fascinated with the Engineering that went into this Vehicle! I'll be removing this Quad plus one more. I drilled a couple of holes with the Pin Vise and then sawed the quad with an Xacto saw blade. The gluing by the previous builder wasn't that good and the top came off ... BONUS! It made it easier to saw the Quad. The Ascent Stage will get a lot of attention too. The Antenna, the front Hatch, the 2 remaining thrusters will get removed and the seams will get sanded ... and much more! Removing the Hatch. And the seams ... take a peek at the GAP at the little thruster housing just below the window. It always makes me smile when I read one of you aircraft builders whining about a tiny seam ... this is what I'm used to. Now this ... THIS is a seam!! A newly released kit from Revell, uses this exact mould ... just about ALL the Real Space kits use old, old moulds. But, this is where the fun is for me! Two embossings on the top had to be sanded down This webbing needs to be removed Just using a saw and chisel blades I've got the Ascent Stage's black paint in Brake Fluid, but it doesn't seem to be working. Maybe it was Acrylic Paint ... man, rebuilding these already 'built' models, is a hoot! This build shouldn't take too long ... thanx for taking a peek guys! Edited January 10, 2018 by K2Pete Quote Link to post Share on other sites
K2Pete Posted January 10, 2017 Author Share Posted January 10, 2017 (edited) The kit's Landing Gear needs some beefing up and some details added. But first I needed to see if I could remove the Landing pads without breaking them ... and ... could not. So I'll come up with another fix. I just snipped the pads off the struts. These are the replacement pads ... I'm starting to build up 4 missing facets. This kit was designed using a Grumman prototype that still needed to go through many revisions. So these corrections to the kit are totally expected. You can see that I use just bits of styrene roughly fit together. As long as I've got a face that I can use as a guide for sanding, I'm good to go. I shim gaps with styrene sheet, in this case .005" pieces around the thruster housing. The four facets at the top of the Ascent Stage. I just roughly cut bits of styrene, glue them and then will fine-tune the shape with Trimming, Filing and Sanding. And they'll look just fine! This Stage will need, and get, the most work. This is going quickly ... I've spent just about 6 hours over 2 days on this ... this may get done in the next 2 weeks! Thanx for taking a peek! Edited January 10, 2018 by K2Pete Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantom Posted January 10, 2017 Share Posted January 10, 2017 Lots of good work going on! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
K2Pete Posted January 12, 2017 Author Share Posted January 12, 2017 (edited) To thicken up the too-thin Landing Gear struts, I slice a piece of styrene tubing and slip it over the strut. The ball on the tip is where the landing pad will be CA'd The Modularized Equipment Storage Area ( MESA ) is next, It'll be hinged. After 2 sessions with Easy-Off, the paint still didn't come off ... I'll try a 3rd time. This is coming along nicely ... but the Ascent Stage will be the one that'll take the most time. Edited January 11, 2018 by K2Pete Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantom Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 That looks like a lot of delicate work. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
K2Pete Posted January 13, 2017 Author Share Posted January 13, 2017 (edited) It's only 'delicate' due to the 1/48 scale ... my style is to build pretty coarse and file and sand. Some other builders measure and cut very precisely and just attach the finished item. Me, I slap it on and refine it more on the model. Patching the removed webbing with .005" styrene sheet as well as building up the two bottom corners using .020" styrene. The 2 resin corner pieces didn't fit this kit because they were designed for the later Monogram Lunar Module ... so I had to scratch build the 2 corners. With all the handling and sanding, the cement bond failed and the 2 halves came apart. This is great. There are 2 items that needed access to the interior and I was hesitant to take it all apart ... but NOW!! Now I can drill out the overhead window ... and done The construction is just about done, now it's just a matter of CA on the Resin and PE. There's still a lot to do, but for about 6 days work ... this is going really smoothly! Edited January 11, 2018 by K2Pete Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kurt H. Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 That is some very impressive work. It is a real treat to see such a detailed step-by-step build thread. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
K2Pete Posted January 15, 2017 Author Share Posted January 15, 2017 (edited) Thanx a lot Kurt H. The "eyes" need to be enlarged a bit. The toothpick is pointing to the pencil line guide. I'll just file it open. And I had to patch a little bit more too. That'll get filed and sanded. New "eyes". I also backed the "eyes" with a triangular piece of styrene. The overhead hatch was a little too big to accept the resin hatch, so I enlarged it and placed a piece of PVC tubing. I also added a .005" bit to fill a little gap. The front antenna housing needed a little beefing up ... and sanding's done, so I can now place all the resin and PE pieces. Putting in all the aftermarket pieces should be a breeze. This stage is almost there. Thanx for looking in guys! Edited January 11, 2018 by K2Pete Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Don Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 Looking great! I have a Monogram Anniversary edition of this in the stash that I picked up at Kennedy Space Center many moons ago (pun intended...LOL!). I will follow your progress and take notes. Cheers! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crowe-t Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Excellent work as always Pete! For removing paint you can try Super Clean, if you can get it by you or 91% Isopropyl Alcohol which is much safer to use. Maybe one of these will work. Mike. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantom Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Coming along great! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
airmechaja Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 Very fascinating build to watch. Dean Quote Link to post Share on other sites
K2Pete Posted January 18, 2017 Author Share Posted January 18, 2017 (edited) Don, your kit may be the newer, more accurate kit. This one is the first kit, circa 1968, with foldable legs. The newer kit, which the New Ware Update was designed for, has fixed legs. Crowe-t, Phantom and Airmechaja ... thanx a lot guys! The Webbing that I removed earlier was replaced by a support strut Getting' there. But with all the handling the Upper Docking Drogue, which was a PVC tube popped out and down into the assembly. So, I guess I found out that PVC and styrene cement don't bond well. I had a spare resin piece and built it up again and glued this new sub-assy back in. Almost ... almost done with this Ascent Stage. The Vent hoods are being attached ... about 18 of 'em Out of sight is the Equipment Bay Radiator With the new Upper Docking Drogue and some Antennae The camera didn't wanna focus ... @#%$!! camera ... but this shows little .020" rods being inserted into the Thruster Bells for reinforcement And ... done. The Eva handrail, Antennae, Thrusters ... all added on. Phantom, this was the delicate part. Those Antennae and other details really tested my patience. Port Side Aft Starboard And top view So this is as far as I go on this. No Paint, No foil, that model is already done. This model is to show all the parts and materials I used to build it up. It'll be displayed along with the completed model. But now, the Descent Stage needs some work ... here I'm thinning the toy-like hinge joints on the landing gear Notice the Downlock PE that was added And ... you're up-to-date. This model should be done by the end of the week. Thanx for taking a peek! Edited January 11, 2018 by K2Pete Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kurt H. Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Lots of nice details in this last update. It is those little things which really set a model apart. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
K2Pete Posted January 21, 2017 Author Share Posted January 21, 2017 (edited) I agree Kurt H. ... the little details ... tedious, yet really satisfying! The Descent Stage is my focus now and here I'm using Aluminum sheet, from a Lasagna pan to make some coverings. The pink piece is a Post-It note pattern These little pieces are wrapped around the braces ... the toothpick points to the braces The Pallets for the Lunar Rover, LRV, get placed on another Quad. And the RTG, Radioisotopic Thermoelectric Generator, needs to be built. The Pallet separations are installed. The Pallets go between 'em, but won't be shown on this model. The Battery has also been installed to the left The back of the Rover, LRV, is where these pallets would go. The little Rover was built a few years ago as my very first scratch build. The parts for the RTG ... Copper wire, Aluminum sheet and styrene The built RTG and the Landing Probes on the Landing Pads. On the Porch, you can just barely see the 'D' Ring near the handrail. Filing down the toy-like hinges on the landing gear A dry fit. Plume deflectors under the Reaction Control Thrusters need to be built and installed yet. It's close to completion! I decided to use another kit's Plume Deflectors and these were what I have. Bent and distorted pieces. I contacted Revell for replacement parts and ... was denied. So, I'll hafta rebuild 'em. Just a couple more things to do and it'll be done. Hopefully in the next couple days. Thanx for looking in ! Edited January 11, 2018 by K2Pete Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantom Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Boy, that is delicate looking!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
K2Pete Posted January 22, 2017 Author Share Posted January 22, 2017 (edited) Phantom ... you have no idea just how delicate it is ... you can't just pick it up to work on it. You have to place the fingers so it doesn't bend any PE or dislodge a piece of thin styrene ... yes, it's a real PITA ... but, it's done. The Plume Deflectors are installed with lots of fiddling around to get 'em to fit. The original kit, circa 1968, didn't include 'em, so I had to adjust these ... And the Landing Pads have been CA'd. And with the Ascent Stage attached ... The appeal of this kit, and the challenge, was to build this one because the Landing Gear fold. The newer kits depict the First Landing on the Moon. So to get the legs built up and still fold ... is key. The entire model consists of the LM in the Rocket's 3rd stage, and the legs need to be folded. This was a nice and quick build. I'll post some pix in the Completed Builds folder with a comparison between the original kit and this one. Now, it's onto the BIG Shuttle for this GB! Edited January 11, 2018 by K2Pete Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kurt H. Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 I am not sure quite what else to say, you really made a silk purse out of a sow's ear on this one. great work! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crackerjazz Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 It's a gem of a build, Pete!!! Beautiful job! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantom Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 The detail and workmanship.....Bravo, well done. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
K2Pete Posted January 24, 2017 Author Share Posted January 24, 2017 Kurt H. ... thanx very much! Crackerjazz and Phantom ... it's a little rough, you'll see it, hopefully, at HeritageCon. Not a piece of jewellery by any stretch. It's intended to be covered up by foils ... but I appreciate it! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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