phantom Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Good good, get that paint happening! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kurt H. Posted February 8, 2017 Author Share Posted February 8, 2017 12 hours ago, phantom said: Good good, get that paint happening! Yes sir Mr. Phantom!!!! I have primered the F-104, using Mr. Finishing Surfacer 1500 Black ..... Thinned until "it looks about right" with Mr. Leveling Thinner. sorry, I had to use the flash, but it was the only way I could get enough light on the model Though not apparant in this picture, the surface is very smooth, smooth enough for NMF, but first I do need to paint the wings, I will double check my references but I believe it is white on top, gray on the bottom. I see masking in my future ..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tobiK Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Yep, on top is white, the grey is the so called "voodoo-grey" FS 16515. Also one panel on the vertical stab is in grey, left and right side one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantom Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 I tend to do the lower Grey in IJN Grey/ Green. But I do mine up "Canadian". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kurt H. Posted February 14, 2017 Author Share Posted February 14, 2017 still masking. had to look at many pictures to figure out what to mask. Care taken now prevents problems later Quote Link to post Share on other sites
worldslaziestbusker Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 I've never built a 104 (I know, wash my mouth out, hair shirt) but will keep an eye out for this kit for the sake of the gorgeous silver styrene. Classic kit swoon! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kurt H. Posted February 19, 2017 Author Share Posted February 19, 2017 (edited) long time no post. so sorry! On 2/14/2017 at 7:49 PM, worldslaziestbusker said: I've never built a 104 (I know, wash my mouth out, hair shirt) but will keep an eye out for this kit for the sake of the gorgeous silver styrene. Classic kit swoon! this is actually only the second 104 I have built. I built a testors F-104 when I was in 9th grade. I was pretty excited to buy it at the Air & Space museum gift shop. Unfortunately at the time I had just started sanding seams, and had not quite grasped the concept of using progressively finer grades of sand paper . I think it was one of the first models I airbrushed too. a bad kit, built badly! This one is coming out a bit better. I have not been posting, but I have actually been pretty busy masking. It was tricky to find good pics and figure out what and where to mask. but I think I figured it out: so the next task is to paint the tops of the wings white. You might be asking your self .. why he no prime the wings a different color ? I have read in several places black is actually the best best base color for white. Well, let us give it a try... It actually covered really well I do not know what is happening here but it did cover better and build up more "whiteness" easier than any other white paint job I have attempted. this is gunze mr. color lacquer. i will give it a few days to dry and move on to the gray I am sure you are also asking why am I masking the areas now? I guess I just want to keep the base coat of black as clean as possible. it is a lot of masking but I want good results so extra work now will hopefully result in a better model. Edited February 19, 2017 by Kurt H. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantom Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 Good to see your keeping the masking tape company in business. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
airmechaja Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 1 hour ago, phantom said: Good to see your keeping the masking tape company in business. They make a good amount of $$$$ off us modellers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kurt H. Posted February 19, 2017 Author Share Posted February 19, 2017 5 hours ago, phantom said: Good to see your keeping the masking tape company in business. 4 hours ago, airmechaja said: They make a good amount of $$$$ off us modellers. I should invest in 3M stock Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kurt H. Posted February 21, 2017 Author Share Posted February 21, 2017 (edited) I painted the gray tonight. might not be the right color, I used aircraft gray. But it looks ok. The texture on the under side of the wings was not as smooth as i would like, so I went back with a very thin mixture and tired to level it out, this is testors MM enamel... I hosed it on a bit too heavy kinda hard to see but I got a run .. I stopped before making it worse. Augh!!! rookie mistake. maybe I can sand it out, but in the mean time I will need to wait forever for it to dry. till next time.... Edited February 21, 2017 by Kurt H. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kurt H. Posted March 1, 2017 Author Share Posted March 1, 2017 (edited) I have been working on this one even though I have not done an update. It ends up the paint dried on the under side of the wing, and the run is barely noticeable, and since it is on the bottom, it is ok. I decided to paint the wheel wells first. I figure it would be easier to mast them, than to mask around them and the speed brakes next task, more masking, then on to Alclad Edited March 3, 2017 by Kurt H. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
airmechaja Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 I like the F-5 or T-38 on the side also.........looks good Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kurt H. Posted March 1, 2017 Author Share Posted March 1, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, airmechaja said: I like the F-5 or T-38 on the side also.........looks good It is a monogram F-5E, another real classic. It was too far along for this GB, but it would have been perfect. It is going to have Iranian markings, and it is the first paint job I did with my new Grex Xgi . Edited March 1, 2017 by Kurt H. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kurt H. Posted March 3, 2017 Author Share Posted March 3, 2017 And painting continues all masked for alclad and after 8 refills of alclad in the color cup Took a while to ensure complete coverage. once this is dry, I will mask off some panels and try different shades to try and replicate the appearance of a real F-104. and here is a bonus pic of the F-5, about to get a clear coat: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kurt H. Posted March 12, 2017 Author Share Posted March 12, 2017 After looking at pictures of f-104s I started with a darker shade for the aft fuselage ..Alclad Dark aluminum after this dries, a different shade in the middle of this area and then maybe some heat staining. see ya later! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
airmechaja Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Do you ever feel like the masking is never ending with NMF? I always feel that way when building one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kurt H. Posted March 14, 2017 Author Share Posted March 14, 2017 18 hours ago, airmechaja said: Do you ever feel like the masking is never ending with NMF? I always feel that way when building one. Yep . The masking never ends. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mlicari Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 This looks really great. Way to beat that kit into submission! Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kurt H. Posted March 19, 2017 Author Share Posted March 19, 2017 On 3/17/2017 at 10:23 PM, mlicari said: This looks really great. Way to beat that kit into submission! Mike Why thank you! It has been an adventure... and here is where we stand now. I like how the rear fuselage came out , but I buggered up the gray panel on the tail Trying to decide the best way to address it. till next time! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantom Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 In my masking experience, it came out good. Have to expect some touch ups. I would just brush paint the fix. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kurt H. Posted March 20, 2017 Author Share Posted March 20, 2017 On one side I would need to touch up the alclad and do not have a color of paint to match. I did come up with an idea to cut a mask, I took a rubbing with a pencil and a piece of paper, so I can cut out the shape of the panel with frisket paper. Now I am trying to decide how far I need to go with the tail... sand ... or just a coat of primer and another coat of alclad ... I will figure it out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tobiK Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Why not masking around the panels and spray again the grey? I only see the grey is affected, the nat. metal coat still looks good... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kurt H. Posted March 24, 2017 Author Share Posted March 24, 2017 I decided to try a brush touch up around the edge with floquil old silver... and I think it worked well I will touch up the grey, then mask and paint the anti glare panel on the nose and it will be time for decals! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kurt H. Posted March 25, 2017 Author Share Posted March 25, 2017 the best laid plans.... I masked the anti glare panel I had some time so I figured I would airbrush the Olive drab. I was pretty sure I had at least 1 bottle of MM Olive drab, and 1 bottle of tamiya olive drab in the paint hoard. I started searching and found 3 and four bottles of other colors I did not know I had, then found "green drab" "medium green" "interior green" dark green , kinda dark green, green drab, RAF green, etc etc etc then finally found a bottle of MM Olive drab .. which was dried out. Some research suggests some NMF F-104s had black panels, but all the pictures I could find of the unite I am modeling have OD anti glare panels. i will take another look tomorrow. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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