11bee Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 (edited) I'm curious if Mike or anyone else is picking up the molds. Or did he just purchase whatever CC had for inventory? Many times when someone drops out of the industry, someone else sees an opportunity. Hoping this will be the case here. Edited February 19, 2017 by 11bee Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantomdriver Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 I hope he did, there was a load of stuff which he wouldn't sell to anyone outside the US Quote Link to post Share on other sites
82Whitey51 Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 Damn...no UH-1C sets left Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Floyd S. Werner, Jr. Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 3 hours ago, 11bee said: I'm curious if Mike or anyone else is picking up the molds. Or did he just purchase whatever CC had for inventory? Many times when someone drops out of the industry, someone else sees an opportunity. Hoping this will be the case here. Oh we see the opportunity but on my front I don't have the financial means to purchase Cobra Company as I wanted to do. Unfortunate timing with my daughter's wedding. I tried to buy it lock, stock and barrel, but couldn't make it happen. Sorry guys. I believe Mike just picked up the remaining inventory and is selling it. Floyd Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chief Snake Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 Mike West is acquiring Cobra Company in it's entirety. That means the masters for resin sets and all of the remaining inventory. He'll decide what he wants to do with it after he has received everything. Chris M Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Chief Snake Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, phantomdriver said: I hope he did, there was a load of stuff which he wouldn't sell to anyone outside the US You are mistaken. Cobra Company shipped world wide to any country for the past 4 years. Apparently you didn't ask. Chris M Edited February 19, 2017 by Chief Snake Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantomdriver Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 Just now, Chief Snake said: You are mistaken. Cobra Company shipped world wide to any country for the past 4 years. Apparently you didn't ask. Chris M Actually, when I tried to put an order in 2 years ago I was told" no shipping to Europe,".. so I never bothered in the end... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chief Snake Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 1 minute ago, phantomdriver said: Actually, when I tried to put an order in 2 years ago I was told" no shipping to Europe,".. so I never bothered in the end... I find that hard to believe. As many people from all over the world found, it was expensive to ship internationally. That stopped most people from following through. The last customer we served from the UK was in December. He was willing to pay for what he wanted. Chris M Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chief Snake Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 5 hours ago, 11bee said: I'm curious if Mike or anyone else is picking up the molds. Or did he just purchase whatever CC had for inventory? Many times when someone drops out of the industry, someone else sees an opportunity. Hoping this will be the case here. Mike did not buy the molds. The value is in the masters, not the molds. Taking the molds would have required Mike having to make a trip here to pick them up. There is a difference in the way we each chose to make production. I made multiple gang molds for building inventory and replacing it. Mike does not use the same way and the existing molds did not suit his aims. The molds have been disposed of. Most of them were in need of replacement. Chris M Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantomdriver Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 that's where I am, I was disappointed..... it was the only lace I could go for my Cobra update, and just to be told, that along the lines of"... too much risk of chargebacks/ non delivery...".. I thought.. "Well, I don't complain if I get what I want...and to tar me with the same brush like I'm untrustworthy, not my way of doing business.." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Piker38 Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 11 minutes ago, Chief Snake said: I find that hard to believe. As many people from all over the world found, it was expensive to ship internationally. That stopped most people from following through. The last customer we served from the UK was in December. He was willing to pay for what he wanted. Chris M That customer would probably be me, then ! Yes, the shipping was expensive - but I was willing to pay to receive the items I wanted. Now I've just got to do justice to the quality of the resin by making a decent job of the model myself ! Keith Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chief Snake Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, Piker38 said: That customer would probably be me, then ! Yes, the shipping was expensive - but I was willing to pay to receive the items I wanted. Now I've just got to do justice to the quality of the resin by making a decent job of the model myself ! Keith Yes, you're that customer. You were not alone, just the last one. And the replacement part you needed has been posted. CM Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chief Snake Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 (edited) 24 minutes ago, phantomdriver said: that's where I am, I was disappointed..... it was the only lace I could go for my Cobra update, and just to be told, that along the lines of"... too much risk of chargebacks/ non delivery...".. I thought.. "Well, I don't complain if I get what I want...and to tar me with the same brush like I'm untrustworthy, not my way of doing business.." There existed a span of time between 2010 and 2012 when an alarming number of shipments to the UK disappeared into thin air and customers made charge backs against Cobra Company for the "losses". It became known to us that unscrupulous buyers in the UK, and many other countries, knew that there was no method of verifying or tracking international shipments. Those same people knew that when using their credit card to buy something required the seller to guarantee delivery. When a shipment can't be verified the seller has no choice other than to have the charge taken back and therefore suffers a loss. So for a time we would only do business overseas when the buyer made payment using Western Union. Not a pleasant way, but still a way. When buyers wanted only to use credit and we refused they took that to mean no shipping internationally. In 2013 the USPS implemented accountability measures that allowed an alleged loss to be tracked down. From that point on we sent anything wanted and paid for using a credit card to anyone who order from everywhere. Seems some people never got the word. So for a time, the many suffered for the misdeeds of the few. And how does one predict who is trustworthy and who is not? Chris M Edited February 19, 2017 by Chief Snake Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scotthldr Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Chief Snake said: I find that hard to believe. As many people from all over the world found, it was expensive to ship internationally. That stopped most people from following through. The last customer we served from the UK was in December. He was willing to pay for what he wanted. Chris M Not hard to believe at all, as late as 2014 CC refused to sell me products as well on the same grounds of non delivery, charge backs and payment issues. The twice I actually got CC products it was down to Fireball Modelworks and a fellow member on here living in the USA acquiring them for me, then forwarding them on. Any how that's in the past and hopefully the sets will continue to be available from other sources in the future. Edited February 19, 2017 by scotthldr Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Winnie Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 Already gone... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Patnab Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 Hi gang, Here in France Cobra Company was easily available from two shops : Kit Dicount : http://www.kits-discount.com/fr/catalogsearch/advanced/result/?category=&name=&sku=&manufacturer=251&echelle=&type_article= Master194 : http://master194.com/prestashop/index.php?id_manufacturer=82&controller=manufacturer Good luck my friends Patrick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantomdriver Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 2 hours ago, scotthldr said: Not hard to believe at all, as late as 2014 CC refused to sell me products as well on the same grounds of non delivery, charge backs and payment issues. The twice I actually got CC products it was down to Fireball Modelworks and a fellow member on here living in the USA acquiring them for me, then forwarding them on. Any how that's in the past and hopefully the sets will continue to be available from other sources in the future. and there you have it.. in a nutshell.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skyhawk174 Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Chris I appreciate you sharing some history as well as the current status. At least this way I am hopeful that someday in the future I will be able to pick up some of your newer sets such as the MV-22 and SH-2. You were around a long time and to be such a leader in the model helicopter community in regards to quality of your update sets is a testament to your wonderful product. Thanks again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
snake36bravo Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Personally I just wish I knew how they did it. Sculpey (caustic to plastic I discovered) then casting? I've been wanting to cast a more detail interior set for the Huey myself. CC48028 Best aftermarket I ever bought is how I felt and man was I on cloud 9 when it arrived in the mail. Cant thank Chris enough. No other option than to cast mine now (not-for-profit) to complete my builds. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Piker38 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 On 2/19/2017 at 8:07 PM, Chief Snake said: Yes, you're that customer. You were not alone, just the last one. And the replacement part you needed has been posted. CM Package safely received. Excellent service. Thanks very much. Take care Keith Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fasteagle12 Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Anyone have a idea what stock still exists and when it will be available and where? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 1 hour ago, fasteagle12 said: Anyone have a idea what stock still exists and when it will be available and where? It's been discussed in detail on ARC and over on HS. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tank Posted March 1, 2017 Author Share Posted March 1, 2017 10 hours ago, fasteagle12 said: Anyone have a idea what stock still exists and when it will be available and where? Lonestar Models http://www.lonestarmodels.com/Cobra-Company.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fasteagle12 Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 2 hours ago, Tank said: Lonestar Models http://www.lonestarmodels.com/Cobra-Company.html Thanks for the link. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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