I.Martin Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Hello all. I've read that early EC-135C Looking Glass were painted gloss white over coroguard before the ADC grey, is it correct? Would be great to see some pics. Thank you!! I.Martin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Slartibartfast Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 I can a find few photos of NMF aircraft but the visual difference between corrogard and ADC Grey isn't great enough for me to tell if any of the white-topped planes aren't gray except in close-up photos and all of those are white/grey. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonSS3 Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 IIRC, although I haven't seen them very often, the ones I've seen were white over Gray. I don't remember seeing any in white over Corogard. IIRC, I did see some (IIRC) "Speckled Trout" aircraft with white over polished metal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spruemeister Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 The word I have is that some of the early RCs in overall aluminum lacquer had overheating problems, and had the white paint added on the upper fuselage. Later they received a total repaint with white over Aircraft Gray. There may have been some early ECs in a similar scheme but I don't recall any photos of that. Rick L. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ikar Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Here's one leaving the Christmas tree in the 80s: There was a red/white stripe around the boom operator area. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
I.Martin Posted January 22, 2017 Author Share Posted January 22, 2017 18 hours ago, Slartibartfast said: I can a find few photos of NMF aircraft but the visual difference between corrogard and ADC Grey isn't great enough for me to tell if any of the white-topped planes aren't gray except in close-up photos and all of those are white/grey. I totally agree, the coroguard seems a bit more clear than the ADC grey but there is hardly any difference between them. Thank you for writing!! I.Martin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
I.Martin Posted January 22, 2017 Author Share Posted January 22, 2017 17 hours ago, DonSS3 said: IIRC, although I haven't seen them very often, the ones I've seen were white over Gray. I don't remember seeing any in white over Corogard. IIRC, I did see some (IIRC) "Speckled Trout" aircraft with white over polished metal. Perhaps the coroguard and ADC grey are so similar that is not easy to find any difference between them. I like the shinny finish of the EC-135K but unfortunately, no decals available! Thanks for writing! I.Martin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
I.Martin Posted January 22, 2017 Author Share Posted January 22, 2017 15 hours ago, Spruemeister said: The word I have is that some of the early RCs in overall aluminum lacquer had overheating problems, and had the white paint added on the upper fuselage. Later they received a total repaint with white over Aircraft Gray. There may have been some early ECs in a similar scheme but I don't recall any photos of that. Rick L. It's hard to find pictures of early planes, I found >THIS ONE< but I'm not sure if the second aircraft is an EC one, the wingtip antennas say so.. Thanks Rick! I.Martin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
I.Martin Posted January 22, 2017 Author Share Posted January 22, 2017 (edited) 11 hours ago, ikar said: Here's one leaving the Christmas tree in the 80s: There was a red/white stripe around the boom operator area. Excellent pictures!! Now I can see that the early ones didn't have the 'saddle' antenna installed at the top of the fuselage and lacks many other antennas that does carry the C model. Even the engines are the early ones and not the TF-33 included in the AMT kit. I think I'll have to go with the late model in ADC grey. The red and white stripes are radiation warning stripes, I don't know what is inside!! Thank you very much for those pics, they're great! I.Martin Edited January 22, 2017 by I.Martin Typo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BN7149 Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 (edited) It's hard to tell exactly from ikar's photo (which is awesome, by the way) but the tail number looks something like 10281, or maybe 10287. Good chance this is an EC-135A or L configured as an ALCC or PACCS aircraft. So, not specifically "Looking Glass", but still part of the mission to provide command/control over ICBM forces from the air. Those planes operated with the J-57 engines until retirement in the early 90's. To answer your original question, there is a photo of a such-painted EC-135C (with TF-33's like the AMT kit) in Robert S. Hopkins "Boeing KC135 Stratotanker - More Than Just a Tanker" book. Interestingly, the tail is also still in Corogaurd instead of white. It would make for a unique model versus the more typical scheme. -Ryan Edited January 23, 2017 by BN7149 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
I.Martin Posted January 24, 2017 Author Share Posted January 24, 2017 (edited) On 23/1/2017 at 3:22 AM, BN7149 said: It's hard to tell exactly from ikar's photo (which is awesome, by the way) but the tail number looks something like 10281, or maybe 10287. Good chance this is an EC-135A or L configured as an ALCC or PACCS aircraft. So, not specifically "Looking Glass", but still part of the mission to provide command/control over ICBM forces from the air. Those planes operated with the J-57 engines until retirement in the early 90's. To answer your original question, there is a photo of a such-painted EC-135C (with TF-33's like the AMT kit) in Robert S. Hopkins "Boeing KC135 Stratotanker - More Than Just a Tanker" book. Interestingly, the tail is also still in Corogaurd instead of white. It would make for a unique model versus the more typical scheme. -Ryan Hello Ryan, I missed the picture, page 123 . The description says ' A pristine aluminium and white EC-135C...' would be great if it's aluminium, I'd paint like that without any doubt, but first I must be sure that it's really aluminum since I have to remove the three satellite com blisters that I had already glued and the real one lacks. I'll continue collecting information about that particular aircraft and the paint scheme. Thanks for your help!! I.Martin Edited January 24, 2017 by I.Martin Typo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BN7149 Posted January 27, 2017 Share Posted January 27, 2017 On 1/24/2017 at 6:25 AM, I.Martin said: Hello Ryan, I missed the picture, page 123 . The description says ' A pristine aluminium and white EC-135C...' would be great if it's aluminium, I'd paint like that without any doubt, but first I must be sure that it's really aluminum since I have to remove the three satellite com blisters that I had already glued and the real one lacks. I'll continue collecting information about that particular aircraft and the paint scheme. Thanks for your help!! I.Martin Sure thing! You do know that the only way to acquire such confirmation is to complete the model in what you think is probably the correct scheme... Then within weeks, a complete set of walk around photos will be discovered and uploaded to disprove all of our scholarly assumptions. It's science. Modeling science. -Ryan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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