Brad-M Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Guys, I am looking to build an RCAF CT-155 jet trainer, so which 1/48 kit do I need to use? Caracal has a nice set of decals which includes the 419 Sqn. commemorative scheme, which would make for a neat project and model. I know Airfix and Hobby Boss have kits, so I'm looking to find out which kit would be appropriate. TIA Brad Quote Link to post Share on other sites
martin_sam_2000 Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 (edited) Airfix Hawk 100. I have found it a little hard to find, but it is a decent kit. EDIT: and apparently Hobby Boss has one as well. Sean Edited February 24, 2017 by martin_sam_2000 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skyhawk174 Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Brad The Airfix kit is better than the Hobbyboss kit from what I have read since I do not have the Hobbyboss kit. There are a couple of issues with the Airfix kit and someone in Australia put out a correction set for the kit. It came with a new nose section to correct the shape. I picked it up a few years ago and to be honest not sure if it is still available. I think it has a new cockpit too and will have to go check. I have two of the Airfix kits and my plan is one in the regular dark blue scheme and one in a Snow Birds. I figure the Tutors are not going to last forever :) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KursadA Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Both Airfix and Hobby Boss kits will work. I think the nose profile of the Hobby Boss kit is somewhat better than that of the Airfix kit. I have an Airfix kit that I will be posting for sale tonight or on Saturday; complete with the Caracal CD48118 kit instead of the kit decals (which were missing when I bought the kit). Kursad Quote Link to post Share on other sites
martin_sam_2000 Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 38 minutes ago, KursadA said: Both Airfix and Hobby Boss kits will work. I think the nose profile of the Hobby Boss kit is somewhat better than that of the Airfix kit. I have an Airfix kit that I will be posting for sale tonight or on Saturday; complete with the Caracal CD48118 kit instead of the kit decals (which were missing when I bought the kit). Kursad If you want to ave the trouble, I am interested in that Kit. Sean Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brad-M Posted February 24, 2017 Author Share Posted February 24, 2017 Thanks Guys, I think I'll go get the Hobby Boss kit and grab a set of the caracal decals. Cheers Brad Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scotthldr Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, skyhawk174 said: someone in Australia put out a correction set for the kit. It came with a new nose section to correct the shape. I picked it up a few years ago and to be honest not sure if it is still available. I think it has a new cockpit too and will have to go check. They did indeed, R & R Models did the correction set and rather nice it was/is too. I used it on my first build on my 3rd and latest return to the hobby back in 2008 https://www.scalespot.com/reviews/rrhawk127/rrhawk127.htm Edited February 24, 2017 by scotthldr Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scooby Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 The Hobby Boss kit has been out for a few years but it is tough to find any build reviews. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skyhawk174 Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 (edited) So i was able to get a Hobbyboss 1/48 Hawk 127 last night with Squadron's 24 hr sale on a selection of Hobbyboss kits. The sale only applied to Hobbyboss kits and they actually had all three versions of the Hawk in 1/48 in stock. Got it for $24.95 US with not much shipping since I sent it to a Texas address and not Canada. If I had shipped it to my place here in Canada, the shipping would be $42 US. I did add one In Action but come on, really, $42 for 1 kit and 1 book? It was funny though that I had to pay Texas sales tax. Oh well. Once I get it, I will be able to compare the Airfix kit to this Hobbyboss release. Edited March 17, 2017 by skyhawk174 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scooby Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 I'd like to see it when it arrives Chris. Really weird that the kit has been out so long yet no build reviews on the net. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jonbryon Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 I seem to remember the HobbyBoss kit received complaints that it wasn't quite 1/48. Could you compare the size of the wings and fuselage with the Airfix kit? Thanks Jon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mingwin Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 7 hours ago, jonbryon said: I seem to remember the HobbyBoss kit received complaints that it wasn't quite 1/48. Could you compare the size of the wings and fuselage with the Airfix kit? Thanks Jon hope that this is not the case, like for their J29 Tunnan (which was sort-of 1/50 scale IIRC) that would be a shame... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jonbryon Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Something in here: http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234973814-bae-hawk-t-mk1a-148/#entry1845652 I'm sure I read something about it elsewhere too... Jon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tobiK Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 (edited) I would go with the HB Hawk series. I compared it with the Airfix kit and can say that now the Airfix kit is outdated. Someone complained about wingspan from HB. But I measured the wings and I am of the opinion that HB is more correct than the old Airfix. HB also has the better surface with crisp panel lines and rivets. If every panel is on the right place, well I cannot tell. But is Airfix 110% correct!?? To me it looks like a Hawk, and like always the cockpit could need more attention, PE set; resin seat... I hope Caracal will release a set with indonesian markings. The TNI-AU had different Hawks in service and still has. Especiall the Hawk 200 singleseater, too. An interior set from Eduard would also be welcome. Here a review in a german modelling online magazine: review: Hawk T MK.100/102 from Hobby Boss Edited March 17, 2017 by tobiK Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skyhawk174 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 2 hours ago, mingwin said: hope that this is not the case, like for their J29 Tunnan (which was sort-of 1/50 scale IIRC) that would be a shame... Not to steer this thread off the rails but I have actually seen a review of the HB Tunnan kit and the reviewer actually said to not even bother picking it up. Instead go get the Tarangus kit of the J29. Way better. That is exactly what I did and it is really nice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jonbryon Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Something in the comments here: http://www.aussiemodeller.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=12492 but we need proof dammit! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scooby Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Still find it odd that despite this kit being out a long time, that there are no actual builds online. Just sprue reviews. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skyhawk174 Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Gary I believe I saw Spencer build one of the Hawks in one of his articles. I think it was in Military Aircraft Modeler? Or was it MiM? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jonbryon Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 5 hours ago, skyhawk174 said: Gary I believe I saw Spencer build one of the Hawks in one of his articles. I think it was in Military Aircraft Modeler? Or was it MiM? Spencer built an Italeri Hawk in Military in Scale some time ago, March 2009. Jon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Emvar Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 I've got one of each kits....... both have issues. Will build both. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mingwin Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 3 hours ago, Emvar said: I've got one of each kits....... both have issues. Will build both. could you confirm if HB kit "looks" to be in the same scale as the Airfix one? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scooby Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 20 hours ago, skyhawk174 said: Gary I believe I saw Spencer build one of the Hawks in one of his articles. I think it was in Military Aircraft Modeler? Or was it MiM? It wasn't the Hobby Boss kit, I can't find a single completed or started build online. Which I find odd. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Colin K Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 (edited) Guys, I have built the Hobbyboss Hawk 100 kit and it is a fantastic kit. The shape and nose profile is WAY better than the Airfix kit. Having said that, you do need to correct a couple of small errors, mainly the number of fences on the leading edges of the wings. If you can find a couple of resin seats, they will dress up the cockpit really nicely. Only other real beef was the lack of MDC det cord for the canopy. There are no etched lines and no decals to represent them. Also, if you want to have the centerline tank on your CT-155 Hawk, you'll need to reshape the smoke pod (for a Red Arrows jet) that comes in the kit. Beyond that, if you want a decent 100 series Hawk, CT-155, Hawk 127, get the Hobbyboss kit and steer clear of the Airfix one. So, here is a shot of the Hobbyboss kit. Edited March 19, 2017 by Colin K Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Colin K Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 For comparison, here is the Airfix Hawk 100 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Colin K Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 (edited) It builds up into a really nice kit. As far as to whether it is 1/48 or 1/50, after doing some preliminary measurements between this and the Airfix kit, they look to both be 1/48. The Airfix kit looks a tad smaller, but I think it is due to the fact that it is shorter than the Hobbyboss kit (again, see nose comparison). Edited March 19, 2017 by Colin K Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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