RKic Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 I know this is a rookie level question, but here I go I! I have a hasegawa RF-4e that comes with these camera nose bits. I'm having trouble identifying if these count as the round or angled nose. I'm assuming round, but can somebody please confirm? Also, can I backdate this version nose to an RF-4C? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MoFo Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Sprue W = round nose. Sprue X = flat nose. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RKic Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 Round nose, standard unslatted e wing, no Kai improvements. This seems to be a really restrictive kit. I was hoping to do a Greek or German RF-4 with it. Seems can't do either. This sucks, I wish Hasegawa have you both w and x sprues in the box. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
polybebber Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Hasegawas RF-4B kit contains both X and W sprues. Maybe a friendly soul who has that kit can spare the round nose from it. Lothar Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scotthldr Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 For a German RF swap the camera housing for the square shape (you can also build a Greek(ex Luftwaffe) jet this way) To build one of the 8 original RF's that were delivered directly to Greece in the 80's, swap the hard wing with the later slatted wing, but you'll also need the intake cheek and fin top RWR fairings. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RKic Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 11 minutes ago, scotthldr said: For a German RF swap the camera housing for the square shape (you can also build a Greek(ex Luftwaffe) jet this way) To build one of the 8 original RF's that were delivered directly to Greece in the 80's, swap the hard wing with the later slatted wing, but you'll also need the intake cheek and fin top RWR fairings. That is the problem - the kit doesn't include the square camera housing. If anybody has a spare square (can you spare a square?) nose to sell, please contact me by PM. I suppose I can try scratch building one too. It would require changing the angle of the front camera window, shortening the front door, installing the prism shape to the bottom. ugh, easier to just hope somebody has a square to spare. Blasted Hasegawa...https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiQw6S9lczSAhXLsFQKHdF6DV4QyCkIHjAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DGysu0kgFwT0&usg=AFQjCNGZkRrAVehScAOGeQ5DuZDldsoMMw&sig2=y4YIQaQBnONUvN5TkAaiCQ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scotthldr Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 I was in the same boat as you a couple of years back, needed the round nose when I had the square, then needed the square when I had the round. I'll check the spares box but I'm fairly sure I've only got one of the square and I need it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RKic Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 It seems to me that in the current configuration, about all I can do with this kit is turn it into an early (1970s-80s) period 501 squadron machine. Did nobody else use the round camera nose in combination with the hard wing? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scotthldr Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 (edited) Spain used the RF-4C, hard wing and round nose, you'll have to swap out the exhausts for short cans but they may be in your box already, If not I think I have a set of short cans Edit: you'll need the Navy style pointed inner wing pylons as well, I may have these as well Edited March 10, 2017 by scotthldr Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pete Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 For a Spanish RF-4C you would also need the straight USN style wing pylons, and, optional, the refuelling probe. Israel also had 2 (serials 490 &497) hard winged, round nosed RF-4E. But you would again need that refuelling probe, and decals, which might be difficult to find. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RKic Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 (edited) Sounds like a massive pain in the a s s Edited March 10, 2017 by RKic Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iaf-man Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 On 3/10/2017 at 7:42 PM, Pete said: For a Spanish RF-4C you would also need the straight USN style wing pylons, and, optional, the refuelling probe. Israel also had 2 (serials 490 &497) hard winged, round nosed RF-4E. But you would again need that refuelling probe, and decals, which might be difficult to find. Italeri reissued their RF-4E with the probe,Spanish planes also had them Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tobiK Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Or you buy the Aires RF-4E detail set. It contains a square nose part. Aires detail set It comes with clear parts. It is true, I have that set im my F-4 AM stash. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RKic Posted March 29, 2017 Author Share Posted March 29, 2017 1 hour ago, tobiK said: Or you buy the Aires RF-4E detail set. It contains a square nose part. Aires detail set It comes with clear parts. It is true, I have that set im my F-4 AM stash. Ah. Thanks for the tip! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wild Weasel V Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Don't forget Iran also had RF-4Es from Blocks 48, 61 and 62. They had a mix of noses but this one definitely has the rounded version: http://gallery.military.ir/albums/userpics/10266/03~49.jpg It looks like a censor may have obliterated the serial but Iran's RF-4Es but the later Blocks seem to use 2-65xx numbers. There were officially 16 delivered but there are several designated as 'UKI' (Unknown Iranian) which were attrition replacements so it could be one of those. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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