kotey Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 (edited) I'm working about new decals - "Russian VKS Su-24Ms in Syria" - in 1\72 and 1\48 scales. Decal + selfaghesive masks Its will look something like this: Edited March 10, 2017 by kotey Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantomdriver Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Good, I just ordered aSu-24 in 1/72.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kotey Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 Stencil decals we already have about four year in 1\72 and 1\48 scales. For aircraft and all armament. Also we have all other markings (Su-24, Su-24M, Su-24MR, Su-24MP) - except Syrian operation, in 1/72 and 1\48 scales. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kotey Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 I havn't so detail photos stencil from Syria for check different stencil on Su-24Ms aircraft, than standard or not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Justicebringer Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Any chance there will be a Su-34 sheet for Syrian ops as well? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kotey Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 Su-34 will be a big decal, i'll include all Su-34s and full stencil set. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Justicebringer Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, kotey said: Su-34 will be a big decal, i'll include all Su-34s and full stencil set. Ah good deal then. I shall hold off and wait for the Begemot sheet. Any idea on a timeframe? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kotey Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 I just starrt collect information about Su-34s, so i can\t say you release time, maybe in the end 2017- first half 2018. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Justicebringer Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 1 minute ago, kotey said: I just starrt collect information about Su-34s, so i can\t say you release time, maybe in the end 2017- first half 2018. Good enough. Might have to pick up a 48 Su-24 and snag this sheet as well Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Matt Foley Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 6 hours ago, pacheco said: I know but many stencils are different. At that scale do you believe someone is going to actually read them? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thegoodsgt Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 1 hour ago, Mr Matt Foley said: At that scale do you believe someone is going to actually read them? Don’t underestimate the knowledge of contest judges. You could come across a judge who points out that the No Push stencils (in Russian) on your model were not used on the aircraft that saw service in Syria. Steven BrownScale Model Soup Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Matt Foley Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 53 minutes ago, thegoodsgt said: Don’t underestimate the knowledge of contest judges. You could come across a judge who points out that the No Push stencils (in Russian) on your model were not used on the aircraft that saw service in Syria. Steven BrownScale Model Soup Oh yes...of course the "power of the force" . If I am that judge and was going to be that anal about it I had better have my references handy to prove it. I have judged in too many contests where there are judges that have "zero" knowledge of the subject they're judging and are only looking at the number one priority - Construction mistakes and errors. back at ya. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
beingthehero Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Awesome! I'll definitely purchase a set. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ryan Hothersall Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Excellent news. I will definitely get the Su-24M in Syria decals when they come out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 14 hours ago, pacheco said: Is not a question of reading. Some Su-24 had stencils in the form of colored dots (red, yellow and blue). Sukhoi had a special system for the stencils with the coloured dots. The different coloured dots pointed to stencils / panles with a particular level of maintenance. Like one colour for every post flight service. So the ground personal had to look only for the spots of certain colour when doing this or that level of servicing. I think it was a clever system!!! And Sukhoi aircraft always had a lot of stencils providing the maintenance teams a full information for their work. I have seen the Su-22 in the paint shop and they had some 700 or 800 stencils on them!!! Best regards Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thegoodsgt Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 16 hours ago, Mr Matt Foley said: Oh yes...of course the "power of the force" . If I am that judge and was going to be that anal about it I had better have my references handy to prove it. I have judged in too many contests where there are judges that have "zero" knowledge of the subject they're judging and are only looking at the number one priority - Construction mistakes and errors. back at ya. I guess I've been lucky. In my twenty years of judging I've seen only the basics assessed. I've never heard any comment regarding accuracy affect the outcome of the category. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Matt Foley Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Now I know.....about the Suhkoi colors on their stencils. This will be something I watch for in the future. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vaildog Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 I know this is slightly off topic, but since it's Su-24 related and I am using your excellent decals already. Is light ghost grey the best match for the standard su-24 color? Are the su-24 and the Mig-31 the same color or different? thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Helmsman Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 (edited) I don't know for sure, but based on new TwoBobs Su-24/34 decals instructions and Mr. Paint catalog, it looks like this is the same color "Traffic Grey". I also suspect that Tu-22M2/3 is painted with the same color. Edited March 30, 2017 by Helmsman Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kotey Posted March 30, 2017 Author Share Posted March 30, 2017 Vaildog, sorry, i don't see you post before. Yes, this grey on Su-24Ms and MiG-31s look same Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Helmsman Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 (edited) Actually after writing my previous post I looked in Begemot instructions for both Su-24 and MiG-31 and they show different greys: 25237 for MiG and 26375(which is light ghost grey) for Su-24. So it's kind of confusing :) Edited March 30, 2017 by Helmsman Quote Link to post Share on other sites
steveski Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Included this one? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChippyWho Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Excellent -in for these, plus the Fullback monster sheet! I have to say, the Flanker series (Su-27/33/35S) sheets are awesome; the Su-27 stencil sheet has a fine selection of weapon markings and even includes the full set of graphics for the humungous Moskit ASM, which Armory left out of their resin kit! Useful, to say the least, as I hope to model the MAKS 1995 Su-33 one day...if my eyesight and fingers hold out long enough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kotey Posted March 30, 2017 Author Share Posted March 30, 2017 To Helsman - I'm check, yes, actually in fabric documents this is different greys on Su-24Ms and MiG-31s. To Steveski - yes, this too To ChippyWho - i'm collect information for design Hellduck (Su-34) decal, a little later i'll start work for this decal, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
steveski Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 23 minutes ago, kotey said: To Helsman - I'm check, yes, actually in fabric documents this is different greys on Su-24Ms and MiG-31s. To Steveski - yes, this too To ChippyWho - i'm collect information for design Hellduck (Su-34) decal, a little later i'll start work for this decal, Interesting! d'also love to put that Turk's Viper side by side... you dun get that many chances to do a modern day jets duel... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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