crushkill Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 (edited) This will be my first WIP ever, and my first build (other than a no paint snaptite for the kiddo) in 15 years. No pictures yet as the kit is in the mail thanks to HeavyArty, but I do have questions I'm hoping some of you rotorheads can help me with. First, did any Huey's fly without pilot's doors? I know in the GWOT the Kiowa's rarely if ever did, and there's something sexy about a bird with no doors. Second, I'd like to splurge on aftermarket, I'm a "grown-up" with a real job now and I can actually afford them, but I don't even know where to begin, any recommendations? And finally, all I have for paints are enamels, but I'd like to make the switch to acrylics, so if you were starting from scratch, what colors would you buy? ((Primarily for the UH-1, but some general purpose colors always help)) I know this is a pretty significant request for information, but hopefully in a week or so I'll start uploading pictures as the build begins. Edited March 27, 2017 by crushkill Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Looking forward to your upcoming progress reports. Regarding doors, if you are building a Vietnam helo, they often flew without. Seemed to be completely up to the whim of the pilots. I think the Huey looks cooler without doors (no pun intended), plus it allows you to show off more of the cockpit. Regarding aftermarket, I believe there are some nice resin rocket pods out there, both the later style and the early style (forget the M-number, they were the 7-shot pods with the tubes exposed). No idea if anyone ever did a PE set for this model but if you can find the Eduard set for the Blackhawk, you could use the seatbelts. Or if you come across the crappy Dragon UH-1H, you can use the very nice PE seatbelts that come with that kit. Best of luck! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
UH-1Mad Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 (edited) Yes - many Hueys in Vietnam most definitely flew without pilot doors. The most common reason was to decrease weight particularly for heavily loaded gunships but many 'slicks' flew without them also. Aftermarket for the UH-1C you need look no further than the Eduard sets. You can get an Interior set, an exterior set and an armament set. They are a bit older so none of them are pre-painted in any way sadly but they are excellent sets. can be found on ebay or Eduard themselves. The MRC UH-1C is the best and most accurate Huey kit you can get - its a quality kit. Period. Chris B. Edited March 28, 2017 by UH-1Mad Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crushkill Posted March 28, 2017 Author Share Posted March 28, 2017 Thanks for the input guys! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
UH-1Mad Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 And sadly an accurate companion long-bodied Huey for the brilliant MRC 'C' model has now been canned Quote Link to post Share on other sites
UH-1Mad Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Some pics of the eduard sets. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
torchf4 Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 12 minutes ago, UH-1Mad said: Some pics of the eduard sets. Cool work man! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rotorwash Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Whether or not a particular ship had pilots doors are not in Vietnam was usually down to unit SOP. In my dad's unit, the 190th AHC, virtually everyone flew without pilots doors. However, the cabin doors were still left on the aircraft. This is a typical UH-1C gunship from the 190th Gladiators. Photo by Bob Coveney. The Big Ed set is a must for the MRC UH-1C in my opinion. Also, make sure you add the scissor links to the rotor system. If you build it OOB, there will be no linkages between the swash plate and the rotorhead! Good luck. Ray Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crushkill Posted March 28, 2017 Author Share Posted March 28, 2017 2 hours ago, rotorwash said: Whether or not a particular ship had pilots doors are not in Vietnam was usually down to unit SOP. In my dad's unit, the 190th AHC, virtually everyone flew without pilots doors. However, the cabin doors were still left on the aircraft. This is a typical UH-1C gunship from the 190th Gladiators. Photo by Bob Coveney. The Big Ed set is a must for the MRC UH-1C in my opinion. Also, make sure you add the scissor links to the rotor system. If you build it OOB, there will be no linkages between the swash plate and the rotorhead! Good luck. Ray Looks like I might have just found an aircraft to build! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
salvador001 Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Way to go crushkill! The MRC UH-1C is the best Huey kit. To dress this girl i would use: -Eduard Big Ed photoetch set. -Fireball Modelworks M158 metal rocket pods -RB model minigun metal barrells. Please post photos of your build. Rod. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CharlieUH-1H Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 yes! there is nothing more gorgeous than a Huey flying without the without pilot's doors way to go! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crushkill Posted March 28, 2017 Author Share Posted March 28, 2017 35 minutes ago, salvador001 said: Way to go crushkill! The MRC UH-1C is the best Huey kit. To dress this girl i would use: -Eduard Big Ed photoetch set. -Fireball Modelworks M158 metal rocket pods -RB model minigun metal barrells. Please post photos of your build. Rod. Going with the Big Ed set, no luck finding the minimum barrels but still not entirely sure how I'm going to arm her yet. Like I mentioned in the first post; I'm starting from scratch in paints, any color recommendations? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
salvador001 Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 (edited) 12 minutes ago, crushkill said: Going with the Big Ed set, no luck finding the minimum barrels but still not entirely sure how I'm going to arm her yet. Like I mentioned in the first post; I'm starting from scratch in paints, any color recommendations? Absolutely. The UH-1C exterior paint is Olive Drab FS34087, for the interior, it was painted Dark Gull Gray FS36231, pilot seats were Olive drab with a dark green or olive cushions, seatbelts were medium gray, instrument panel anti glare was black, and individual instruments were black also, the rest was dark gull gray. Ammo box in the back was olive drab, soundproofing was a bit of a satin gray color. Main rotor blades were black in the lower surface and olive drab on top with yellow tips, tail rotor blades were olive drab with yellow tips but they could be black with a red-white-red tips. Ray (Rotorwash) will give you more information, he is the Huey man. Rod. Edited March 28, 2017 by salvador001 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crushkill Posted March 28, 2017 Author Share Posted March 28, 2017 Thanks for the FS numbers! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crushkill Posted March 29, 2017 Author Share Posted March 29, 2017 Alrighty, things are progressing. Got the kit in the mail today, Vallejo paints, the Big Ed PE set and RB miniguns are all in the mail. Ready to get cranking on this baby. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crushkill Posted March 29, 2017 Author Share Posted March 29, 2017 On 3/27/2017 at 11:07 PM, rotorwash said: Whether or not a particular ship had pilots doors are not in Vietnam was usually down to unit SOP. In my dad's unit, the 190th AHC, virtually everyone flew without pilots doors. However, the cabin doors were still left on the aircraft. This is a typical UH-1C gunship from the 190th Gladiators. Photo by Bob Coveney. The Big Ed set is a must for the MRC UH-1C in my opinion. Also, make sure you add the scissor links to the rotor system. If you build it OOB, there will be no linkages between the swash plate and the rotorhead! Good luck. Ray I'm a ground pounder by day, so all these engine terms are confusing me to death, my Google skills aren't what I thought they were or something, but can you break it down Barney style regarding the scissor links? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HUEYHOG Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 The two long vertical bars in my pic. Google uh-1 swash plate or uh-1 rotor. I have 6 of these in the box still and never noticed this lol... The pictures of a built UH-1C on the box shows the bars.... Tim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chief Snake Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 The links in question are provided in the kit, just left out of the instruction sheets. They are parts #44 on fret B. Chris M Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crushkill Posted March 30, 2017 Author Share Posted March 30, 2017 3 minutes ago, Chief Snake said: The links in question are provided in the kit, just left out of the instruction sheets. They are parts #44 on fret B. Chris M Excellent! I was sitting here trying to think of the best way to scratch build them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crushkill Posted March 31, 2017 Author Share Posted March 31, 2017 The build has officially begun. Doing an inventory of the pieces, and like everyone else, MRC got me with the ammo belt on the clear parts. It's on the main windshield but I think it's salvageable. Aftermarket goodies should be here this week and I can get really cranking on this soon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rotorwash Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 13 hours ago, Chief Snake said: The links in question are provided in the kit, just left out of the instruction sheets. They are parts #44 on fret B. Chris M Lets you know I never built the UH-1C rotorhead, Chris! Mine's going to be a B model. Thanks for that info. Ray Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chief Snake Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 Another curios error is the placement illustration of the pilot's seat sliding armor panel, The right side panel is B-25 and the left side panel is B-27, they are shown in the instructions installed upside down. Chris M Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crushkill Posted March 31, 2017 Author Share Posted March 31, 2017 16 minutes ago, Chief Snake said: Another curios error is the placement illustration of the pilot's seat sliding armor panel, The right side panel is B-25 and the left side panel is B-27, they are shown in the instructions installed upside down. Chris M Thanks for the heads up. I'm gonna be using the Eduard set, which replaces the kit seat armor. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crushkill Posted April 1, 2017 Author Share Posted April 1, 2017 Shipment of new Vallejo paints just got in, finally going to get some bench time in! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rotorman Posted April 1, 2017 Share Posted April 1, 2017 Will be watching your build as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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