11bee Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Over 100 Navy instructor pilots have refused to fly T-45 training sorties due to concerns about the aircraft's oxygen system. Hundreds of training flights have been impacted. Not sure I'd call this a "Mutiny" or just a catastrophic breakdown in leadership but as far as I'm aware, it's unprecedented. Can US military officers conduct work stoppages? Crazy stuff.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
john53 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Aren't pilots required to sign for a plane before they fly it? I don't believe any pilot is willing to sign his own "death warrant". JMO---John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted April 5, 2017 Author Share Posted April 5, 2017 I should clarify- my comment about the breakdown in leadership was directed at the pilot's chain of command. Seems to be some strong animosity towards upper mgmt regarding this issue. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
john53 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Thanks, now you have something headed in another direction. But still is this a safety issue? Are they refusing to fly with unsafe equipment? If so it's not a mutiny.How is refusing to use faulty equipment a mutiny. I still don't see where you are going.---John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted April 5, 2017 Author Share Posted April 5, 2017 Don't know what to tell you. Google the story and form your own conclusions. What's the correct term when a hundred or so naval officers decide to stop flying missions? Work stoppage? I have no idea. Just can't recall anything similar happening in the past except maybe when a few Raptor pilots refused to fly when that aircraft had O2 issues. Nothing on this scale though. First I've read that the T-45 had problems. When I first saw the headline, thought it was about Hornets. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tosouthern66 Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Looks like the issue is Navy wide with the O2 systems. I watched a Fox News Report and they mentioned the issue exists with Hornets as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
habu2 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 On 4/5/2017 at 6:46 PM, tosouthern66 said: Looks like the issue is Navy wide with the O2 systems. I watched a Fox News Report and they mentioned the issue exists with Hornets as well. Both made by McDD / Boeing. Are F-15s having similar issues ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tosouthern66 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 2 hours ago, habu2 said: Both made by McDD / Boeing. Are F-15s having similar issues ? I don't know but I wouldn't doubt it. If it is happening to other aircraft give it time it will leak out then we will know. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
achterkirch Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 I think it has to do with the OBOGS (O2 generating system) some aircraft have like the super hornet and some legacy hornets. I'm thinking that the T-45 have the same O2 system. From what I read aircraft with LOX (Liquid O2) don't have that problem as aircraft equipped with OBOGS have. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dnl42 Posted April 7, 2017 Share Posted April 7, 2017 Seems it's been going on for a few years now Oxygen Problems Afflict 297 Navy & Marine Hornets Navy F/A-18s face persistent oxygen issue But finally came to a head Two-Star: Poor Communication May Have Spurred Pilots' Refusal to Fly U.S. Navy Pauses T-45 Operations Over Oxygen System Issue Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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