lulldapull Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 (edited) Hi folks, just wondering if there is a match in Gunze for painting the Su-25/ 34/ 35's? Edited May 7, 2017 by lulldapull Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bobo1953 Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 as i have a su-34 to build in the future, thanks to your input, preventively i have made a morning-long research on the net. well. there is this link that goes through all camo patterns of sukhoi family, interesting, but no reference to model colors: http://www.sukhoi.mariwoj.pl/su-30-ru-32.htm the only paint expressly named after russian eggplant grey is the russian-made Mister Paint MRP 205 "eggplant dark gray". as it is a new brand it is not listed in the bible of all comparison charts, "the ultimate model paint conversion chart", neither have i found any other kind of conversion from mrp and gunze acqueous (mr. hobby). as for myself i would go for the russian product that seems to be rather dependable, and water/(lacquer?)-based too: http://www.hmhobbies.co.uk/mrp-205-eggplant-dark-grey-su-32-su-34-30ml.html HTH...and happy modeling! bobo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mfezi Posted May 7, 2017 Share Posted May 7, 2017 I don't know about Gunze, but if you want an acrylic lacquer match, very close to Mr Color in paint type, then AKAN 63166 is specifically matched to this colour. It is also available in AKAN's water-based acrylics as AKAN 73166. The AKAN description says: Dark Gray 'Eggplant' (2013 upper surface scheme for Su-34, Su-35S, Su-25SM, Mi-8, Mi-24, Mi-26, etc.) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
harvy5 Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 Which period should it be? Su-25 had 3 basic camo. Before and after 1987, and after in the 21st century. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bobo1953 Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 hi harvy. have a look at this link: https://www.cybermodeler.com/aircraft/su-25/su-25_all.shtml i don't know the subject, but maybe you can deduce the period from the data. HTH. happy modeling!. bobo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Helmsman Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 (edited) From Trumpeter MiG-29K Aqueous 30% H56 + 70% H305 Mr. Color 30% C72 + 70% C305 Haven't tried this myself, going to use MRP-205 instead. Edited July 15, 2020 by Helmsman Quote Link to post Share on other sites
carlos1 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 (edited) I have just mixed my own paint, as i am doing a su27 in the eggplant scheme, i used 50% german grey, 20% pure red, 20% flat blue, and 10% black. Cane out an absolute treat really dark grey with a hint of purple. It really looks mean and menacing on a 32nd scale flanker, i know not strictly correct, but a what if scheme, as the eggplant schemes were on the SU30, SU33, SU34 and SU25's. Edited July 15, 2020 by carlos1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Inquisitor Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 (edited) On 5/6/2017 at 8:34 PM, lulldapull said: Hi folks, just wondering if there is a match in Gunze for painting the Su-25/ 34/ 35's? http://www.mr-hobby.com/en/itemDetail.php?iId=2885 Mr Color 393 for Eggplant color If you live in Japan as your profile says, you might have better luck getting that Gunze Mr. color locally than Akan or MRP as people suggest. Edited July 15, 2020 by Inquisitor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 4 hours ago, Inquisitor said: http://www.mr-hobby.com/en/itemDetail.php?iId=2885 Mr Color 393 for Eggplant color If you live in Japan as your profile says, you might have better luck getting that Gunze Mr. color locally than Akan or MRP as people suggest. I have this color, its way too blue. The real color is closer to a neutral dark gray. MRPs version is off too. Its too purple. AKAN is the closest. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ratte Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 3 hours ago, Mstor said: I have this color, its way too blue. The real color is closer to a neutral dark gray. MRPs version is off too. Its too purple. AKAN is the closest. AK interactive also make that color in their Real Color line which looks to me pretty much spot on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 There was another thread where this color was discussed at length. One of the sources stated that the color is in fact RAL 7015 and that is what the Russians used, a RAL color. here's the thread... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Helmsman Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 5 hours ago, Mstor said: I have this color, its way too blue. The real color is closer to a neutral dark gray. MRPs version is off too. Its too purple. AKAN is the closest. AKAN looks very close to Model Master 2034 Engine Grey (FS 36076 which corresponds to RAL 7015) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 24 minutes ago, Helmsman said: AKAN looks very close to Model Master 2034 Engine Grey (FS 36076 which corresponds to RAL 7015) Yep, one of the paint companies uses 36076 in their set for the "Eggplant" scheme. Hataka I think. Its mentioned in the thread I linked. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A.C.Acikgoz Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Eggplant grey is not a special "russian" paint.. it is a simple RAL 7015 colored paint from well known industrial/automotive paint manufacturer Akzo-Nobel 🙂 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 On 7/16/2020 at 1:36 PM, A.C.Acikgoz said: Eggplant grey is not a special "russian" paint.. it is a simple RAL 7015 colored paint from well known industrial/automotive paint manufacturer Akzo-Nobel 🙂 Well, whoever it is who makes the paint, it sure does fade fast. Can make for some very interesting weathered paint on some models I've seen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Walker Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 The MRP version of Eggplant is nothing like the real color. AK and AKAN or MM Engine Gray are the ones to go for. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brian P: Fightertown Decals Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 And I just bought MRP Eggplant and Fs36076... -brian Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 8 hours ago, Brian P: Fightertown Decals said: And I just bought MRP Eggplant and Fs36076... -brian The FS36076 would be the closer of the two. MRP's Eggplant does look pretty cool though completely inaccurate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fighting Eighty-Four Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 On 7/15/2020 at 6:16 PM, Mstor said: I have this color, its way too blue. The real color is closer to a neutral dark gray. MRPs version is off too. Its too purple. AKAN is the closest. This is indeed very true. I built the KH Su-35 using the MRP Eggplant, and immediately as I started to spray it thought "UH OH!" in my mind as it was obviously way too purple. I went ahead and continued spraying it over the whole model and then misted a dark gray (I can't remember which one) over the entire model and that toned the purple down enough that I was happy with the color, although it might still be slightly too purple. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 8 hours ago, Fighting Eighty-Four said: This is indeed very true. I built the KH Su-35 using the MRP Eggplant, and immediately as I started to spray it thought "UH OH!" in my mind as it was obviously way too purple. I went ahead and continued spraying it over the whole model and then misted a dark gray (I can't remember which one) over the entire model and that toned the purple down enough that I was happy with the color, although it might still be slightly too purple. But come on, you've got to admit it. A dark purple Su-34 does look pretty cool OK, back to my corner. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raptor01 Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Looks like the “Eggplant” color has been applied to the F-35!🤩 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 18 hours ago, Raptor01 said: Looks like the “Eggplant” color has been applied to the F-35!🤩 F-35 is FS 36170 which is quite a bit lighter than FS 36076. Just an artifact of the photo that is making it look darker. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raptor01 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 True but FS 36076 weathers rapidly, like FS 36118. RAL 7015/FS 36076 may be the starting shade but it seems to weather to the purple hue after time. I have seen FS 36118 weather to a Gull Gray on jets in for PDM. Just have to look at the photo and period in time it is being modeled. John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 13 hours ago, Raptor01 said: True but FS 36076 weathers rapidly, like FS 36118. RAL 7015/FS 36076 may be the starting shade but it seems to weather to the purple hue after time. I have seen FS 36118 weather to a Gull Gray on jets in for PDM. Just have to look at the photo and period in time it is being modeled. John Well, yes, the paint that Russia uses for RAL 7015 weathers/fades rapidly. At that point, you can open up the palette to all sorts of colors, but the photos I've seen of very weathered and faded Su-34s show just a straight faded version of 7015, no real hue shift. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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