11bee Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 49 minutes ago, TaiidanTomcat said: There are clearly upsides. its a balancing act. Its not uncommon for military publications to give full names, units, hometowns, and duty station in their generic descriptions. "Its just great to be out here where men are men and sheep are fearful" says Private Enrique "schmuck" Shmuckatelli from Bumhole, Texas. Shmuckatelli and Marines from 3/1 out of Camp Pendleton are enjoying their time between brothels as a part of operation Viper Sphincter 2017 with the 17th MEOW... SOCOM has a website. Yeah, I don't think average grunts have much to fear. However anyone even remotely notorious is a different story. Ask the ex-skipper of the USS Vincennes (the ship that shot down an Iranian airliner) how he felt when someone blew up the family minivan with his wife behind the wheel. If if I was that Navy pilot, I would have much preferred to forego my 5 minutes of fame and simply remain anonymous. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Waco Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 Quote If if I was that Navy pilot, I would have much preferred to forego my 5 minutes of fame and simply remain anonymous. It is entirely within the realm of possible he did not have a choice. "Get out there and do some good PA work," is, unfortunately, a legal order. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TaiidanTomcat Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 2 hours ago, 11bee said: Yeah, I don't think average grunts have much to fear. Lol really? What an interesting statement. Of all the things that have gone on over there, a pilot that shoots down one plane associated with a government that wants little to do with fighting the US is a pretty interesting fear. You would think all the air to ground work would be drawing more ire from factions under attack daily. Anyway I'm Sure he will go deep into navy witness protection. I see your point I simply think it's not very relevant even to the enemy, but we shall see. Also random attacks against easy targets are more common than deep targeting of specific personnel. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
okthree Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 2 hours ago, 11bee said: Ask the ex-skipper of the USS Vincennes (the ship that shot down an Iranian airliner) how he felt when someone blew up the family minivan with his wife behind the wheel. Maybe he's divorced and doesn't like his ex. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TaiidanTomcat Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Waco said: It is entirely within the realm of possible he did not have a choice. "Get out there and do some good PA work," is, unfortunately, a legal order. Yep Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 From a friend serving on the Bush. Once the inevitable decals are released, gotta make sure you add the lighter color used when the changed the pilot's name. My guess is that you'll see a lot of these shirts around town once the Bush makes it back to VA in a few days. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TaiidanTomcat Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Pretty cool. Also, you have friends?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 13 minutes ago, TaiidanTomcat said: Pretty cool. Also, you have friends?? LOL... He's my daughter's boyfriend. Great kid. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TaiidanTomcat Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 4 hours ago, 11bee said: LOL... He's my daughter's boyfriend. Great kid. Ahh there we go Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Murph Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 So did they really change the modex from 404 to 402 after the kill? Regards, Murph Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hblecha Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 8 hours ago, Murph said: So did they really change the modex from 404 to 402 after the kill? Regards, Murph Apparently not since the modex on the Hornet shooter as seen in the picture provided by 11bee is 302. Ciao!! Henry Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spike72 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 19 hours ago, Murph said: So did they really change the modex from 404 to 402 after the kill? Regards, Murph My understanding from talking to some friends is that 304 was his jet but he was flying XOs aircraft on that day, so now 302 has his name on it. Also, the modex in that pic doesn't look changed just the name. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Murph Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 15 hours ago, hblecha said: Apparently not since the modex on the Hornet shooter as seen in the picture provided by 11bee is 302. Ciao!! Henry Thanks. for the info. 4 hours ago, Spike72 said: My understanding from talking to some friends is that 304 was his jet but he was flying XOs aircraft on that day, so now 302 has his name on it. Also, the modex in that pic doesn't look changed just the name. Agreed that the modex doesn't look like it's been changed, just the pilot's name. Some aviation website was claiming that they changed the modex too. Since "402" is typically assigned to the exec, something will have to change on that score sooner or later. Regards, Murph Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pete Wenman Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 (edited) Let's see if this works Hot from Hook 17 https://livestream.com/wab/tailhook2017/videos/162478715 Nope can't get the embedding to work, so follow the link P Edited September 9, 2017 by Pete Wenman Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 2 hours ago, Pete Wenman said: Let's see if this works Hot from Hook 17 https://livestream.com/wab/tailhook2017/videos/162478715 Nope can't get the embedding to work, so follow the link P Thanks for the link, it was an interesting talk. Definitely provides more info on the events that day. Sounds like the HUD film has made the rounds within the fleet, hoping it will become public at some point soon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pete Wenman Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 ....and the finished painting hot off the easel. Pretty pleased with this, and nothing at the JO briefing linked above showed this to be badly off the mark Warparty Rocks Oil on panel 18" x 9" P Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted September 9, 2017 Share Posted September 9, 2017 I found it interesting that after the shoot down, he found himself low and possibly in range of some AA systems so he jettisoned all of his external tanks and stores. Said he hit the tanker outbound with nothing but a wingtip -9X. Nice painting! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GW8345 Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 To my knowledge they did not jettison their drop tank, just the ordnance they were carrying. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 I may have misunderstood his comments in the post above. Sounded to me like the aircraft was bare, except for the -9X (and obviously whatever targeting pod he was carrying). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
okthree Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 13 hours ago, foxmulder_ms said: We need decals for this. Agreed. I want the t-shirt too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pete Wenman Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 Words and pictures https://theaviationist.com/2017/09/21/heres-the-video-of-the-syrian-su-22-fitter-being-shot-down-by-a-u-s-navy-fa-18e-super-hornet/ P Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 The video above was embedded in the VFA-31 cruise video, which was strange since they didn't shoot down the Fitter. Regardless, the entire cruise video is here if interested: https://vk.com/video9014095_456239070 Nice vid, worth watching the whole thing, has some nice air to air shots of Russian Flankers. Link courtesy of The War Zone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Was reading about the engagement. sounds like they used the AIM-120D. I haven't followed this too closely, wasn't aware that the D version was in frontline service yet. There are some interesting pics out there of Bush's SH's in Air to Air configuration with nothing but a targeting pod, external tank, 6 AIM-120D's and wingtip AIM-9's. Nice change of pace from a modeling standpoint instead of just wall to wall bombs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Cartwright Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 I was chatting with some AF guys at an air show the other day and asked what they knew and could say about the AIM-9X failure, and they seemed pretty relaxed about it. I don't know if they were toeing the company line, or offering their real views on it, but they seemed to be pretty confident the AIM-9X was spoofed by a flare. If remember right, they said the angle of the attack made that much more likely and that most IR missiles would have encountered the same issue. They didn't seem to think it was a big deal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11bee Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ken Cartwright said: I was chatting with some AF guys at an air show the other day and asked what they knew and could say about the AIM-9X failure, and they seemed pretty relaxed about it. I don't know if they were toeing the company line, or offering their real views on it, but they seemed to be pretty confident the AIM-9X was spoofed by a flare. If remember right, they said the angle of the attack made that much more likely and that most IR missiles would have encountered the same issue. They didn't seem to think it was a big deal. Curious if the Su was fitted with a missile approach warning system or the hapless pilot just happened to look over his shoulder and saw the inbound Sidewinder in time to deploy flares? Edited September 26, 2017 by 11bee Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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