swimmer25k Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Title says it all. I've got both kits, so not an issue. Ignore accuracy and/or detail. Looking for the easy way to get a J done. Thanks, Chris Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phantom Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Never seen a ZM model. But the Hasegawa is easier then the Academy. Both look like a Phantom when done. Also each has advantages over the other. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gene K Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 11 hours ago, swimmer25k said: Ignore accuracy and/or detail. Just to avoid the Academy intake challenge, I'd go with ZM ... and you'll get the better accuracy and/or detail as well! Gene K Quote Link to post Share on other sites
habu2 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 11 hours ago, swimmer25k said: Looking for the easy way to get a J done. If that's your goal then... Monogram. :) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
swimmer25k Posted June 21, 2017 Author Share Posted June 21, 2017 7 hours ago, Gene K said: Just to avoid the Academy intake challenge, I'd go with ZM ... and you'll get the better accuracy and/or detail as well! Gene K I have the DMold/Rhino/XMM (forget which one) intakes, so it really isn't an issue. My Academy N is almost ready to paint and the resin intakes weren't a hassle at all. Would this change your opinion? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JackMan Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 14 hours ago, Gene K said: Just to avoid the Academy intake challenge, I'd go with ZM ... and you'll get the better accuracy and/or detail as well! Gene K May I know what is the problem with the intakes? I might be able to pass on the info to a friend who has a couple of these in his stash. Thanks in advance Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dehowie Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 ZM out of box. Got plenty of both including the new S from ZM and im going to struggle to find a reason to build my Academy J's. B's are a different with ZM looking like they wont do one. Detail in the ZM kit alone is beautiful. If price isnt an issue the ZM kit goes together beautifully and has considerably more detail. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kurt H. Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 (edited) The ZM has instrument panel decals. Therefore much easier. all kidding aside, looking at the ZM kit, it also provides a one piece canopy, and looking at the directions, the landing gear legs are added last. The academy kit has you put the main legs in when you assemble the wing, and the nose gear hook is installed early in the assembly sequence, and it has been mentioned by several people that it is easy to break. In my opinion those features make the ZM look easier. I have only started an academy -B and looked at my ZM in the box. I really want to build both but there are too many kits in progress on my work bench. Any particular plane / unit you want to build? To expand on the comment from Habu2 ... the easiest of all might even be the ESCI kit ... even lower parts count and scribed panel lines. the only problem is zero cockpit detail, and shallow intakes/exhaust. Edited June 22, 2017 by Kurt H. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gene K Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 11 hours ago, JackMan said: May I know what is the problem with the [Academy] intakes? This is my take. The resin intakes are the way to go! Gene K Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gene K Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 12 hours ago, dehowie said: Got plenty of both including the new S from ZM ... . Where did you get the S? I preordered from Volks US and haven't heard a thing. Gene K Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff C Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 4 hours ago, Gene K said: Where did you get the S? I preordered from Volks US and haven't heard a thing. Gene K I ordered my S direct from Japan with EMS shipping and it arrived this past Monday in California. I don't believe that Volks US will get theirs until July 26th with an IPMS Nationals corelease based on my read of their online flyer. First, the "F-4S" type:●Released on June 10th (Sat) at 7,500 JPY (without tax)!! *Japan Standard TimeThen,●Simultaneously released on July 26th (Wed) – 29th (Sat) for US Friend Shops and IPMS Omaha!! http://www.zoukeimura.co.jp/en/sentiment/oyajiblog_093.html ZM phantom is awesome! Can't go wrong building one, or two, or... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fulcrum1 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Do you know where can you order that diorama base? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Charlie D. Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 I'm going to need one of those bases! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff C Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 1 hour ago, fulcrum1 said: Do you know where can you order that diorama base? https://www.volks.co.jp/page_ex.jsp?CONTROLID=SC0040&BUSINESSID=InitDisp&jancd=4518992529448&version=en Probably Volks Japan when that specific version is released. Other versions available now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gene K Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 (edited) 16 hours ago, Cliff C said: I ordered my S direct from Japan with EMS shipping ... . Thanks. I asked Volks USA to cancel my order so, like you, I can get my S from Japan. What does "(with fee)" mean, and how is this fee (tax) avoided? When I first read the Old Man's about the JULY 26th US release, my anxious mind read JUNE 26 ... . . Gene K P.S. The Diorama Base ordering page has this note: "Will Be Restocked" Edited June 23, 2017 by Gene K Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dehowie Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 22 hours ago, Gene K said: Where did you get the S? I preordered from Volks US and haven't heard a thing. Gene K Hi Gene Picked one up from Volks Tokyo on Tuesday. Its out on Hlj as well. Imagine it will be out via your USA store soon. some cool new parts not just the S wing..ill leave the rest as a surprise. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cliff C Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 Gene, my total charges are below. It's definitely more expensive going direct to Tokyo but, in this case, you get the product much sooner. Sub Total : 8,100 yenShipping Charge : 2,900 yenCommission : 414 yenEMS Insurance : 0 yenTotal Amount : 11,414 yen Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gene K Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, Cliff C said: It's definitely more expensive going direct to Tokyo but, in this case, you get the product much sooner. Thanks. The "sooner" part is worth the extra $7! But Volks Tokyo charges a tax of some sort AND a "Commission"?????? They must be learning from the airline industry. dehowie - HLJ shows it backordered -- 4-6 weeks. You should have picked up a crate of them on your trip (to sell to some of us EarlyNeeders). Gene K Edited June 23, 2017 by Gene K Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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glorystomper Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 woohoo mine arrived and i can't wait to see what the bonus part is.. ordered both the J and S through Volks Japan and had them shipped EMS.. my experience is that it usually arrives within 5 days. also looking forward to them doing an F-4E if that's ever gonna happen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Space Tiger Hobbes Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Who makes corrected intakes for the Academy 1/48 F-4J? I looked around and didn't find anything. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gene K Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 (edited) On 6/23/2017 at 8:17 PM, Space Tiger Hobbes said: Who makes corrected intakes for the Academy 1/48 F-4J? I looked around and didn't find anything. For the air conditioning intakes, Hypersonic Models. For the engine intakes, DMold, for starters. Gene K Edited June 26, 2017 by Gene K Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Space Tiger Hobbes Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Those are listed for the A/C and probably D. Are there not some subtle differences between those and the J model intakes? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
my favs are F`s Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 I have no idea about the Academy kit, but the ZM kit has just about a dozen leftover pieces after finishing the kit... if this is a factor to consider... :) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dnl42 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Neither DMold nor XMM have J intakes for the Academy kit. DMold has B/C parts and XMM has B parts. XMM says their B parts fit the J kit. I lack the knowledge to understand if this is a shortcoming of the Academy kit, but they do have J intakes for Hasegawa Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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