Monogram F-105D

[jabow]

Does it need nose weight to keep all wheels on ground??

 

Would 300 grain lead in Nose Cone work??

 

Bo

[Ben Brown]

It doesn't need nose weight, but I would suggest adding a little, just to be sure. On my last one, I used 3-4 small (3/0) fishing sinkers.

 

Ben

 

[jabow]

Better safe than sorry!!

 

Thanks, Ben.

 

Bo

[BillS]

Like Ben says, no weight but I'd replace the struts with metal ones. The mains are very stalky and flimsy.

[Kurt H.]

1 hour ago, BillS said:

Like Ben says, no weight but I'd replace the struts with metal ones. The mains are very stalky and flimsy.

 

I agree, with the plastic legs it is really wobbly.  Other than that minor issue it is a fun kit to build.  Now you got me thinking about it and I want to go build one...

[Paul Boyer]

Very few jet fighter models need weight to hold down the nose. In my collection, the F-80, F-94 (1/72) are exceptions. I'm trying to think of any type of current-service jet fighter would need weight in my scale. Possibly F-14 with the wings swept back . . . . nah. Most of the modern jet fighters have the main gear well aft of the c/g and so it stands with the models, too.

[jabow]

On 7/16/2017 at 10:14 AM, Paul Boyer said:

Very few jet fighter models need weight to hold down the nose. In my collection, the F-80, F-94 (1/72) are exceptions. I'm trying to think of any type of current-service jet fighter would need weight in my scale. Possibly F-14 with the wings swept back . . . . nah. Most of the modern jet fighters have the main gear well aft of the c/g and so it stands with the models, too.

Thanks, Paul.  Did add some weight just to be on safe side.

Bo

[jabow]

On 7/15/2017 at 7:44 PM, Kurt H. said:

 

I agree, with the plastic legs it is really wobbly.  Other than that minor issue it is a fun kit to build.  Now you got me thinking about it and I want to go build one...

???  SAC metal nose gear seems to be missing that U shaped aft nose gear part????  I'm going with plastic ones and if they fail, can always add the metal ones later, ....... I hope??

Bo

[Ben Brown]

The plastic struts on my first Thud listed ~20 years, until I dropped it. The plastic ones are okay, just a little wobbly.

 

Ben

[dnl42]

I believe SAC intends you to use some of the kit's plastic bits to embellish their "structural" parts.

 

I have the SAC gear; PM if you're interested.

[habu2]

4 hours ago, jabow said:

???  SAC metal nose gear seems to be missing that U shaped aft nose gear part????  I'm going with plastic ones and if they fail, can always add the metal ones later, ....... I hope??

Bo

 

Amelia Earhart approves....  :)

[dehowie]

On the bright side by the time you use enough resin to fix the completely hosed Monogran F-105 nose then you will have plenty of weight to keep its nose down..

[Ben Brown]

I say this every time the nose issue comes up, but I'm not entirely convinced the Monogram nose is that far off. Years ago, during a visit to Seymour Johnson AFB with our local club, we had the chance to compare a built Monogram Thud with a real one. Monogram did a pretty good job of capturing how the nose has a slight curvature as it goes toward the radome, and then the forward 1/3 or 1/4 becomes a true cone. Monogram's problem is a combination of the radome not blending well with the rest of the nose and the pitot tube part, which is off-center and too thick. If you put a spacer between the nose and the radome, and replace the pitot tube with one from Master Models, it completely changes the look of the model. You just have to blend the pitot into the radome, because the pitot was meant for the Hobby Boss kit, which does have issues with the shape of its nose, among other things.

Just my opinion, of course. 

Ben

 

[SinisterVampire319]

On 7/18/2017 at 3:48 PM, Ben Brown said:

I say this every time the nose issue comes up, but I'm not entirely convinced the Monogram nose is that far off. Years ago, during a visit to Seymour Johnson AFB with our local club, we had the chance to compare a built Monogram Thud with a real one. Monogram did a pretty good job of capturing how the nose has a slight curvature as it goes toward the radome, and then the forward 1/3 or 1/4 becomes a true cone. Monogram's problem is a combination of the radome not blending well with the rest of the nose and the pitot tube part, which is off-center and too thick. If you put a spacer between the nose and the radome, and replace the pitot tube with one from Master Models, it completely changes the look of the model. You just have to blend the pitot into the radome, because the pitot was meant for the Hobby Boss kit, which does have issues with the shape of its nose, among other things.

Just my opinion, of course. 

Ben

 

Agreed. I have a D and G in Sacramento and a F model down the street from me to crawl around on.