iroquois1963 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Hi as all . I am going to begin a group built in September and it is possible that the subject is on the Middle East, I would like to realize a blackhawk during the operation desert storm and whether it is of the group of PEDRO, I have a copter from ACADEMY / MRC ref 2192, UH-60L.What color it were? Was a unit of pedro present? And which one? The inside of the pedro are they without seats? My idea of dio is a black which is put on a road and a group of GI transports a wounded person towards the copter, are this realist for the desert place? thank in advance for yours answers . regards . phil of france . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Clinstone Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 PEDROs are only present in Afghanistan from 2009-present. Additionally they are USAF HH-60Gs, not USA UH-60s. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
anvil6 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 USAF hawks in Desert Storm were painted in a two tone brown / tan scheme. Not sure if all of them but at least in all the photos I have seen: http://www.dstorm.eu/pages/en/usa/h-60.html scroll to the bottom for USAF. hope this helps! -Ramon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
anvil6 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 oh yeah, your diorama idea would also work well with an Army Black Hawk (which is the kit you have) and some medevac decals from Werner's wings: http://www.wernerswings.com/product.html http://www.wernerswings.com/images/H-60CheatSheet.jpg http://www.wernerswings.com/images/H-60CheatSheet2.jpg http://www.wernerswings.com/images/H-60CheatSheet3.jpg Looking forward to seeing your build! -Ramon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iroquois1963 Posted August 10, 2017 Author Share Posted August 10, 2017 Hello sirs . Thank you for your answers, no pedro in Iraq for desert storm, I can paint them in 2 tones of camo.I put you photos of the boxes which I think of using and the box of 2 eme black that I possess with kits from COBRA COMPANY . and the second blackhwak : Which one 2 is the most just for 1 era war of the golf?On which one 2 helo, I can use kits from cobra?I like this copter but I do not know it well, I do not want to make anything and if I make a diorama with false things, there will be well a French model maker who will know better that I, and I would be thought of as an ignoramus. best regards . phil . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
anvil6 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 40 minutes ago, iroquois1963 said: Hello sirs . Thank you for your answers, no pedro in Iraq for desert storm, I can paint them in 2 tones of camo.I put you photos of the boxes which I think of using and the box of 2 eme black that I possess with kits from COBRA COMPANY . and the second blackhwak : Which one 2 is the most just for 1 era war of the golf?On which one 2 helo, I can use kits from cobra?I like this copter but I do not know it well, I do not want to make anything and if I make a diorama with false things, there will be well a French model maker who will know better that I, and I would be thought of as an ignoramus. best regards . phil . Hi Phil! The first one, the UH-60L (out of the box it is actually a UH-60A) is appropriate for a Desert Storm army aircraft, and there are upgrade sets available to make it a more modern army aircraft if you desire. The second one, the AH-60L (its actually an MH-60, the US doesn't have a specific AH-60 designation) is appropriate for any time period but there is a huge amount of variation so for that you would want to check your references. Here are a few links that I hope provide the answers you seek: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikorsky_UH-60_Black_Hawk and in french: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikorsky_UH-60_Black_Hawk#Versions hope this helps and I cant wait to see your build! CHEERS! -Ramon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HeavyArty Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 For an Operation Desert Storm (ODS, Gulf War 1, '90-'91) US Army Blackhawk, the first kit you showed (UH-60L) is the most appropriate to use. To make it a MedEvac Black Hawk, your best bet is to get the Warner's Wings UH-60 MedEvac conversion set and Black Hawk decals. You could use all the Cobra Company UH-60 Correction and Cockpit sets. All of the Cobra Company sets can be used on a more modern (Iraq or Afghanistan) Black Hawk. All of the figures you show are more modern for Iraq (since '03) or Afghanistan as well. Their vests and some other features are more modern than Operation Desert Storm. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hawkwrench Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 (edited) All vests worn by aircrews during ODS were the SRU-21P survival vests. I'll try and dig a pic up for you. Here's 2 of me back in the 80's before Desert Storm kicked off. Hope these help! Tim Edited August 11, 2017 by hawkwrench Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iroquois1963 Posted August 11, 2017 Author Share Posted August 11, 2017 hello sirs . Thank you for this other precision, but I am disappointed that figurines are not good, the set pleased me well, saying that it is necessary to inquire.Thank you in any case, heavy arty, these présiçions on uniforms, that makes ten years of gap, it is on that they evolved.The group built begins only in September and lasts till the end of December but it still is not to decide because our organizers make us do a vote to choose one of the five options, I hide you not that there is a choice Vietnam which would please me of advantage . I put you the link towards the forum in question, http://warpaints.net/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=8078 Go and look, there is not only of the plane but at least to see the realizations .si the subject on the Middle East is winning, I go up the blackhawk in 2 colors of camo with the kit of the cockpit from chris and to find figurines which correspond has desert storm . Anyway, I once warn(prevent) you the ended vote, it will be August 20th, I would know about what to work and if it is the Middle East, I hope not to disappoint you during the assembly, and it to do the best possible.Thank you very much of your interventions which lights(enlightens) me. best regards . phil . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
huey_crew_chief Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 22 hours ago, hawkwrench said: All vests worn by aircrews during ODS were the SRU-21P survival vests. I'll try and dig a pic up for you. Here's 2 of me back in the 80's before Desert Storm kicked off. Hope these help! Tim We had guys still wearing these vests in 2004. National Guard holdouts Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hawkwrench Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Wow, 2004??? Just a little bit outdated I'd say!!! Tim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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