Mstor Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 6 hours ago, Raymond Chung said: For those Su-33 parts has shrinking please got to www.kineticmodel.com for replacement procedure and we can offer the new replacement and sorry for the trouble caused. The issue sue has been resolved with changing from outsourcing production to in house production. Wish I had known about this earlier. I built it as is. Wasn't up to filling in and rescribing the many effected parts. The model (which is in painting stage) still looks good. The Su-33 remains my favorite Russian jet fighter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Walker Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 Raymond, Do we ask for just the effected parts, or the entire sprue? Thank you, M Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raymond Chung Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 We will send the entire sprue Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Petarvu Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 I just recieved newsletter for Aires/QB , And it has listed as future release :Quickboost Su-35 Flanker-E correct radome for GWH.....did I miss something? What is wrong with radome? P Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Solo Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 The same question: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Petarvu Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 I did some checking, Su-35 has recessed lines on radome (late vers) so GWH is correct.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, Solo said: I am sorry but all I can say is: Best regards Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foxmulder_ms Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 Well you may need some nose weight. So this will solve that! :) Not a terrible thing. haha. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
flybywire Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 3 hours ago, Petarvu said: I did some checking, Su-35 has recessed lines on radome (late vers) so GWH is correct.... So if you wish to build the earlier/pre-production/"gray" schemes, this radome with raised lines is a must? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Petarvu Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 13 minutes ago, flybywire said: So if you wish to build the earlier/pre-production/"gray" schemes, this radome with raised lines is a must? Page 3 = photos late radome closeup Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, ya-gabor said: I am sorry but all I can say is: Best regards Gabor I saw it listed on Hobbyeasy as being for an "Airfix" kit. Edited August 3, 2018 by Mstor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 Here's a pic of a "late" model Su-35. If you zoom in on this pic you can see that the "lines" on the nose are recessed channels. These have some sort of wire embedded in the channel and that there is a very faint raised ridge around the channel. Here is a pic of and early pre-production aircraft. It has the same channels with the embedded wire and slightly raised ridge around it. So, perhaps there is no difference between the old and new nose cones. Wonder what Quickboost is thinking? All I can think is that when the light is right, the slightly raised area around the channels looks exaggerated and makes it look like a distinct raised line. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mingwin Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 the QB cone details looks over exaggerated even for the "early" version, here's Su-35S 901 in front view: (note the the very first Su-35S had pitot boom on the cone, so, this photo depict the 901 prototype, in a more advanced stage in its life) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ya-gabor Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 The radome was not changed from early to late production models! They are absolutely the same. There is a metal strip embedded in the glass fibre cone. It is an “engraved” line on the surface! The Su-35 is still a “developing” aircraft and a lot of upgrades are added to it all the time. There are new radomes on them but the lines are the same the difference is in the material they use and the outer surface. It has NO influence on a plastic kit in any way! The Aires “correction” is a joke but I am sure they will be able to sell many of them. This is a classic example of “let’s make something (even if it is completely wrong) people will buy it anyway no matter if they need it or if this “correction” is justified or not.” This only raises questions about all the other “correction” parts and how authentic they are!!! Best regards Gabor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 (edited) Here's a very close up pic of one of the "lines" on the nose cone (all credit to AMUR for this and the other early model Su-35 pic I posted). Again, this is an early Su-35, Bort red 06 I believe. Edited August 3, 2018 by Mstor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
flybywire Posted August 4, 2018 Share Posted August 4, 2018 18 hours ago, Mstor said: Here's a very close up pic of one of the "lines" on the nose cone (all credit to AMUR for this and the other early model Su-35 pic I posted). Again, this is an early Su-35, Bort red 06 I believe. What you said is exactly what I was thinking of after looking also at the link by Petarvu, raised ridge with a central recessed line . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ilias Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Just to keep the dialogue going, the feedback I had from Aires is that the product corrects the shape... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
B.Sin Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 45 minutes ago, Ilias said: Just to keep the dialogue going, the feedback I had from Aires is that the product corrects the shape... GWH got the shape of the nose cone wrong, I didn't notice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 36 minutes ago, B.Sin said: GWH got the shape of the nose cone wrong, I didn't notice. Care to offer some proof of this statement? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
B.Sin Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 21 minutes ago, Mstor said: Care to offer some proof of this statement? I was hoping someone would show me! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Matt Foley Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 1 hour ago, B.Sin said: GWH got the shape of the nose cone wrong, I didn't notice. Huh? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
B.Sin Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 Just now, Mr Matt Foley said: Huh? Mr. Matt Foley, If you read a couple of post up, someone said they're inquiry to Aries as the reason for a nose cone correction piece, was because GWH got the shape of the nose wrong. I would like to see proof of myself. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ilias Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 (edited) I have just asked Aires to provide anything that could help the post followers better understand where the potential issue is... As soon as I have anything I will let you know. Edited August 8, 2018 by Ilias Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 If anything, the Aires nose looks off to me. The Su-35 nose cone has a distinctive double curvature. Ya-gabor posted about this back on page 12. Going from the photo pf the Aires nose, it seems to be missing or at least not have enough of this double curvature. I don't think Ya-gabor would have purposely pointed this out if the kit nose profile was not accurately replicating it. I'll have to dig out my kit and take a look at the nose to compare it to the pics Ya-gabor posted. Here's a link to the page where the nose shape is discussed. You have to scroll down a bit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ilias Posted August 9, 2018 Share Posted August 9, 2018 Thanks - just to be clear on this I am not taking anyone's side here. One can form an opinion based on the information available; and if I may this process i.e. of trying to find (or get closer to) the absolute truth is probably one of the great aspects of this hobby!!! Btw, I am really looking forward to receive the G.W.H. kit I have ordered...😀 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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