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14 hours ago, Inquisitor said:

1219.2 mm = 4 feet = 48 inches and  in 1/48 scale = 1 inch/25.4mm

It might just be a coincidence. ;)

fixed that for you.

Yes, 25.4 mm! Thanks!

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On 8/19/2017 at 5:06 PM, B.Sin said:

who is the successor to the Aviation Art brand?

Just to clarify, it is not being released by HazMAT Models (the design team that developed the original Su-33 kit) so it must be the money partner that paid for the tooling, took the tooling and sold it to Kinetic.

I wonder how Kinetic feels about this? :hmmm:

 

:cheers:

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1 hour ago, Zactoman said:

Just to clarify, it is not being released by HazMAT Models (the design team that developed the original Su-33 kit) so it must be the money partner that paid for the tooling, took the tooling and sold it to Kinetic.

I wonder how Kinetic feels about this? :hmmm:

 

:cheers:

 

Would it be a wild guess that Trumpeter/Hobbyboss could be the buyer of the improved version of the this Su-33 since they are coming with a new Su-33 too?

 

Juan

Edited by solher1

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36 minutes ago, solher1 said:

 

Would it be a wild guess that Trumpeter/Hobbyboss could be the buyer of the improved version of the this Su-33 since they are coming with a new Su-33 too?

 

Juan

Since when does Trumpeter/ Hobby boss, care this much about accuracy?

Just saying.

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47 minutes ago, solher1 said:

 

Would it be a wild guess that Trumpeter/Hobbyboss could be the buyer of the improved version of the this Su-33 since they are coming with a new Su-33 too?

 

Juan

Your guess is as good as mine. Though I'd think the new Aviation Art would have to be a partner/sister company to Kinetic else risk copyright fallout. Even then, Kinetic is still stuck with a product that was a work-in-progress and Aviation Art will have the finished product. Which would you buy?

 

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2 hours ago, Zactoman said:

Just to clarify, it is not being released by HazMAT Models (the design team that developed the original Su-33 kit) so it must be the money partner that paid for the tooling, took the tooling and sold it to Kinetic.

I wonder how Kinetic feels about this? :hmmm:

 

:cheers:

Hi Chris,

 

What do you want to know from me ? 

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17 minutes ago, Zactoman said:

Your guess is as good as mine. Though I'd think the new Aviation Art would have to be a partner/sister company to Kinetic else risk copyright fallout. Even then, Kinetic is still stuck with a product that was a work-in-progress and Aviation Art will have the finished product. Which would you buy?

 

:cheers:

Chris, 

 

IMHO, the people will buy the product produced in shelf first. There is no "perfect" product in the world. Always has room for improvement. Right ? Even not AA, some other companies can still produce Su-33, Su-66..... 

 

BTW, Kinetic has no connection to AA (Partners/Sister) company. The tooling ownership transfer just a normal business deal.

Edited by Raymond Chung

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4 hours ago, Zactoman said:

Just to clarify, it is not being released by HazMAT Models (the design team that developed the original Su-33 kit) so it must be the money partner that paid for the tooling, took the tooling and sold it to Kinetic.

I wonder how Kinetic feels about this? :hmmm:

 

:cheers:

 

 

Dear Chris

The original design was not formally listed because of the personal reasons for previous project supervision (Has resigned), here were resulting in a large number of unacceptable and can not be corrected bugs and that is not the design and mold owner's intention.
Best regards
 
Ran
Anymore share CAD for all friends 
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Edited by SuperTomcat21

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Who is going to buy this kit?

Any SU-33 lovers already have the very nice Kinetic kit plus weapon sets sitting on shelves.

Im sorry but im not buying a kit with a corrected NACA 2051B aerofoil section for the fin. 

Im sure the dedicated will but exactly how many kit sales is that guarranteeing plus Kinetics has a two year head start and is already in collections or been started.

Financial suicide to invest in a kit with zero distribution, that corrects panel lines and aerofoil sections as lovely as it will be.

My SU-33 money is spent and so is 90% of the rest of the communities.

Good luck but this model shark is out...

 

 

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31 minutes ago, dehowie said:

Who is going to buy this kit?

Any SU-33 lovers already have the very nice Kinetic kit plus weapon sets sitting on shelves.

Im sorry but im not buying a kit with a corrected NACA 2051B aerofoil section for the fin. 

Im sure the dedicated will but exactly how many kit sales is that guarranteeing plus Kinetics has a two year head start and is already in collections or been started.

Financial suicide to invest in a kit with zero distribution, that corrects panel lines and aerofoil sections as lovely as it will be.

My SU-33 money is spent and so is 90% of the rest of the communities.

Good luck but this model shark is out...

 

 

I will buy this kit! Never bought the Kinetic kit. 

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50 minutes ago, dehowie said:

Who is going to buy this kit?

Any SU-33 lovers already have the very nice Kinetic kit plus weapon sets sitting on shelves.

Im sorry but im not buying a kit with a corrected NACA 2051B aerofoil section for the fin. 

Im sure the dedicated will but exactly how many kit sales is that guarranteeing plus Kinetics has a two year head start and is already in collections or been started.

Financial suicide to invest in a kit with zero distribution, that corrects panel lines and aerofoil sections as lovely as it will be.

My SU-33 money is spent and so is 90% of the rest of the communities.

Good luck but this model shark is out...

 

 

 

 

I agree that Kinetic Su-33 made the market for a new kit much smaller but still it is not nothing. First, there are new modelers (younger or new to hobby) coming and current modelers priorities can change too. I bet everyone has a to do list and Su-33 can be on the list but not high enough so that they may not have bought yet. Then Kinetic Su-33 has minor problems like bad instructions, not enough missiles for a full load aircraft and no a2g weapons. A Chinese version can be included in the box with few additional parts and decals. If the price is comparable I will certainly consider this kit since I am in market for a second Su-33/J-15 :) More is merrier for the consumer. 

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From my perspective, the two main things that put me off the kinetic kit were the missing weapons, or at least pylons under the intakes, which I really feel should be included. I also understand the wings are tricky to pose folded; I am concerned about the weight/stress on the fold join.That and justifying the price of the kit to my domestic boss.

Edited by dryguy

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9 hours ago, foxmulder_ms said:

 

 

I agree that Kinetic Su-33 made the market for a new kit much smaller but still it is not nothing. First, there are new modelers (younger or new to hobby) coming and current modelers priorities can change too. I bet everyone has a to do list and Su-33 can be on the list but not high enough so that they may not have bought yet. Then Kinetic Su-33 has minor problems like bad instructions, not enough missiles for a full load aircraft and no a2g weapons. A Chinese version can be included in the box with few additional parts and decals. If the price is comparable I will certainly consider this kit since I am in market for a second Su-33/J-15 :) More is merrier for the consumer. 

 

New modelers (younger) have less budget, the kinetic model is already expensive, I really doubt an another Su-33, by an another company, a new one, will be less.

 

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SuperTomcat21; Could you post a CAD view from the direct front?

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8 hours ago, dryguy said:

From my perspective, the two main things that put me off the kinetic kit were the missing weapons, or at least pylons under the intakes, which I really feel should be included. I also understand the wings are tricky to pose folded; I am concerned about the weight/stress on the fold join.That and justifying the price of the kit to my domestic boss.

 

 

Dont be. The joint is like a zipper, so much surface glue goes into... it is very much safe. You can almost hold whole model from the tip of the wing. 

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I can hardly wait that model kit, I hope that they will put in cockpit SVP-24-33 updated instrument panel for Syrian campaign.

Edited by DraganChe

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22 minutes ago, DraganChe said:

I can hardly wait that model kit, I hope that they will put in cockpit SVP-24-33 updated instrument panel for Syrian campaign.

but we didn't have any information about svp-24-33.:crying:

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Just now, SuperTomcat21 said:

but we didn't have any information about svp-24-33.:crying:

I have some of links but there is very little pictures about it...

P.S. Please read PM :-)

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8 hours ago, SuperTomcat21 said:

but we didn't have any information about svp-24-33.:crying:

It is crucial to investigate does every aicraft in Syrian campaign have upgraded SVP-24-33 maybe it was instaled on just few of them and the rest of them were used as a pure blood fighters...with old cockpit etc...

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If the kit is as good as it sounds I will get one. 

 

I only have the old Acadamy SU-27 and want to do this bird and 34 and a 35 at some point. 

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