swimmer25k Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Are the F-4N speed-brake wells painted red, white, or either one? Thanks, Chris Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Slartibartfast Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Google "f-4n phantom speed brake" and select images. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rex Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 (edited) A lot of those Phantom speed brake photos are of F-4J or S. It is hard to find just N photos using Google. Probably caused by the search engine keying on "phantom" or something like that. Anyway, Gloss White speed brake wells, with Red on the inner surface of the brakes themselves,,,,,,with the outside of the brakes matching the wing undersurface color. The wells are White, for the same reason as the gear wells,,,,,,it helps with leak spotting. And the doors are Red because they are the moving part of the "pinch point." For a good laugh, look at the front of the Phantom 180 down the page a bit,,,,,,,,,,,,without the radome,,,,that sure qualifies as a "speed brake." There is a photo of a model, masked and painted with Red Speed Brake wells on that search results page, too. Makes a pretty good argument for not using models as references. Edited August 23, 2017 by Rex Quote Link to post Share on other sites
swimmer25k Posted August 23, 2017 Author Share Posted August 23, 2017 Thanks Rex. I couldn't tell from the photos which model I was seeing. Hence, why I asked my question. Chris Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rex Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 yeah, about all you can tell from that angle is whether it is thin winged or thick winged. can't tell which of each pair it is showing Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kstater94 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Speed brake wells are the same color as the underside of the aircraft. The only part that is red is the inside of the speed brake because it is a moving surface. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Slartibartfast Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Is someone going to really tell me any NAVY/Marine Phantoms did not have white speed brake wells? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
flybywire Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 (edited) 8 hours ago, Rex said: ....... Probably caused by the search engine keying on "phantom" or something like that. Yeah I also noticed that. When you type something, like "A-6E cockpit" on google, you'll still be given tons of images totally not related to the one you typed, no matter how specific you put in there! And it's a burden on your part to click on every single picture to see if it is related to the one you're interested in. I'm really curious why they couldn't filter that out...... Edited August 24, 2017 by flybywire Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rex Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 2 hours ago, Slartibartfast said: Is someone going to really tell me any NAVY/Marine Phantoms did not have white speed brake wells? Certainly not me. On Navair Phantoms, they were White, even with the TPS scheme,,,,,,same as the wheel wells. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ST0RM Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 White wells. Red painted surfaces that moved. Red = danger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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