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Thanks for the help, Slobodan.

I think I'll do two profiles of this №18113:

The 1st one will be "White 113" in СФРЮ (socialist Yugoslavian) markings,  carrying KMGU (КМГУ) attached to the BDZ-3UMK (БДЗ-УМК) pilon as a loadout,  as we can see in the pics above.

The 2nd will be the same a/c exactly as it looked 26.03.1999 when Zoran Radoslavlevich flew his last combat mission ("pepsi" markings, "113" overpainted, with 2 x R27 and 4 x R73 missiles as a loadout). 

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Actually, I was going to release it today.

But when everything was 99% ready, I suddenly noticed that those P-62-1DB1 & BD3 (with APU-68) pylons had strange color, unlike the rest of the a/c.

Moreover, some sections of them were darker than the others.

So I have to correct that. But what color? 😲

 

MiG-Y.jpg

Can anyone identify the correct colors for them? Does anyone have more color photoes of the MiGs during service in СФРЮ (1987-1992)?

Edited by Mangas
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On 8/23/2019 at 3:09 PM, Mangas said:

Actually, I was going to release it today.

But when everything was 99% ready, I suddenly noticed that those P-62-1DB1 & BD3 (with APU-68) pylons had strange color, unlike the rest of the a/c.

Moreover, some sections of them were darker than the others.

So I have to correct that. But what color? 😲

 

MiG-Y.jpg

Can anyone identify the correct colors for them? Does anyone have more color photoes of the MiGs during service in СФРЮ (1987-1992)?

"Evo boja kolega",here are the colors of it.P-62 is Dark Ghost gray,and front of it is sea gray.All bomb pylons are matt aluminum color, on lower part, upper part is FS36375 light ghost gray..APU-68 are light ghost gray FS 36375.Here is the proportion of colors on P-72 for R-73 missiles, and color is same like on those for P-62 for R-60 missiles.

P.M. me if you need anything else for this project.

 

 

 

Edited by Nino_Belov

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MiG-29 (9-12) №18113 of 127 IAE "Vitezovi" (Витязи) of 204 IAP, СФРЮ (Socialist Yugoslavia), Batajnica airbase.

This is how the aircraft looked like during 1988-1992 period.

Later it will fly to intercept NATO attacks, but that's another story...

Original photo:

https://media.tangosix.rs/2017/09/MiG-29-kolekcija-M-Micevski-iz-Krila-Armije-_0005.jpg

Color profile:

Mi-G-29-9-12-18113-MERGED-1600.jpg

 

P.S.: thanks to Zactoman, Slobodan, DarkKnight & Nino_Belov for the help.

 

Edited by Mangas
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2 hours ago, DarkKnight said:

i wonder if the Serbian AF painted over the old Yugoslav AF markings or sanded them off.

Dear friend,

First there was period pre 1992 year where the red stars was on the aircraft.Whole aircraft was painted in SSSR ,and had Russian stencils.Then there in 1992 Yugoslavia was broke.And during that braking of country all states who were new ,have striped off old markings of Yugoslavia and painted their new markings.In case of Serbia, on our MiG-29 old markings where not striped full and completly because it was war time .They were partialy striped off and overpainted with some strange green color.Also what is important to say is that in the period of pre 1992 they had white numbers below windshield and on upper side of right wing near edge,also when you look on lower left wing there was also same number.On air intakes there was red star in roundel,and on upper left ans lower right wing there was same red star on roundel.They were all in same size.All stencils were in red and blue paint.So when they put new markings in 1992 there overpaint those red stars in roundel on the upper side of right wing with slightly brighter green,on the lower side it was overpainted with little darker gray,that gray is darker that the whole airframe light gray color.On the air intakes the case is same.And with white numbers the case is same.If the number or marking was on green surface it was painted over with bright green and if it was on gray surface it was overpainted with darker gray.What is also deferent in period after 1992, it was registration number on the tails.The old positiom of this number was also together repainted with Yugoslav flag.When there was period after 1992. aircraft recived only new font of registratiom numbers in black color but only this time they were a little bigger.Also new markings were painted over those light green and dark gray "patches" places where was first type of markings.What was painted new,this is the list of it:

1.)On tails as I sad before new registration markings,and new shorter Yugoslavia flag,just below that new registration (New Yugoslavia, what was left of it , it was Serbia and Montenegro together in that left over of Yugoslavia). This time flag was 4 times shorter and there were not red star in the midle.

2.) On back side od engine nacels there was put new Yugoslav roundel only in colors of Yugoslav flag,like that you have look Yugoslav flag throw the cyrcle and just paint it on that nacels.There was on each engine only from the outer side.

3.) White numbers on the nose below windshield on each side where left overpainted in bright green,also on the upper side of right wing they were left in same color.As of white number on lower side of the wing it was left overpainted in darker gray.

4.) Old roundels with red star in it ,on the air intakes on each side on the front were left overpainted in darker gray.As of roundels on the wing the situation is a little bit deferent.On upper side on the place of old roundel with red star which was repainted with bright green ,there was placed new roundel same like those on engine nacels on back side of engine.Situation is same with roundel on left wing underside.Only this time because old roundel is overpainted with darker gray,roundel was painted over it.

5.) All bright green and dark gray colors were a little bit bigger in area of spreading over old marking so they are visible also and bigger that new markings.

6.) All stencils were keeped untouched and ssme as before.

Well that is it.In case when Serbian airforce was formed ,later, whole aircrafts was repainted,new markings,new stencils(dark gray and few in red colors,but this time on Serbian),and all aircrafts were modernized and upgrsded...,electronics,weapons,cockpit ,etc..Also when new aircrafts 9.12 and 9.13 started to be delivered in S.A.F. in 2017 they have new paint scheme and this time Russian stencils...and there is more to come of those aircrafts and they are also modernized and upgraded,but that is left to see how they will look when they arive.

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Thanks for the info.

After I finish MiG-29 piloted by Zoran Radoslavlevich, I think I'll make MiG-29 piloted by Iljo Arizanov that shot down F-15.

Besides, some sources say that MiG-29 piloted by Nebojša Nikolić also shot down F-16 (24.03.1999).

The problem is that it's really easy to get confused, as NATO sources, Yugoslav sources & Russian sources have absolutely different info.

 

 

Edited by Mangas

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14 minutes ago, Mangas said:

Thanks for the info.

After I finish MiG-29 piloted by Zoran Radoslavlevich, I think I'll make MiG-29 piloted by Iljo Arizanov that shot down F-15.

Besides, some sources say that MiG-29 piloted by Nebojša Nikolić also shot down F-16 (24.03.1999).

The problem is that it's really easy to get confused, as NATO sources, Yugoslav sources & Russian sources have absolutely different info.

 

 

One correction bro,Arizanov got F-117,Peric damaged F-15 with R-73,rest is cool 😉

https://youtu.be/mkWrXvLVBlY

Edited by Nino_Belov

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6 hours ago, Mangas said:

What number was Arizanov's MiG-29? Do you have it's photoes? 

I have only this picture of 18112, when it was still in first paint scheme of markings of SFRJ.But I have this great picture of Maj.Arizanov where he is next to 18101. And here is also few nice pictures of new painting schemes ,which a bit out of topic...but I just 

love to much Serbian MiG-29's.

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On 8/25/2019 at 10:59 PM, Mangas said:

MiG-29 (9-12) №18113 of 127 IAE "Vitezovi" (Витязи) of 204 IAP, СФРЮ (Socialist Yugoslavia), Batajnica airbase.

This is how the aircraft looked like during 1988-1992 period.

Later it will fly to intercept NATO attacks, but that's another story...

Original photo:

https://media.tangosix.rs/2017/09/MiG-29-kolekcija-M-Micevski-iz-Krila-Armije-_0005.jpg

Color profile:

Mi-G-29-9-12-18113-MERGED-1600.jpg

 

P.S.: thanks to Zactoman, Slobodan, DarkKnight & Nino_Belov for the help.

 

I'm happy I was able to help.

The profile is looking very nice. I assume it's not finished, but if it is, you need to make the dielectric panel on the top of the vertical stabilizer gray.

 

8 hours ago, Nino_Belov said:

I have only this picture of 18112

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Note that the gray and green areas of camouflage on the vertical stabs are reversed from that on 18113. The same is true on the port side.

 

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On 8/31/2019 at 9:05 AM, Zactoman said:

The profile is looking very nice. I assume it's not finished, but if it is, you need to make the dielectric panel on the top of the vertical stabilizer gray.

 

Updated now.

Thanks, Zactoman. )

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The same  aircraft in it's final flight.

Pilot - Zoran Radoslavlevich, Bosnia, March 26th, 1999.

His last combat mission.

Photo of the original a/c:

https://media.tangosix.rs/2019/03/23-10.574-1.jpg

 

Color profile:

Mi-G-29-9-12-18113-SRY-1600x595.jpg

 

 

P.S.: note the new markings, and the rockets.

Again, thanks to Zactoman, Slobodan, DarkKnight & Nino_Belov for the help.

Edited by Mangas

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