Brad-M Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Am I correct in saying that everything was black, except in the early 70's when the instrument panels were painted a medium gray; 36231? I am starting my GWH kit and it's going to be a camouflaged bird in the 80's. Yes I have all the vents intakes sorted out :) Also, wheel wells, were they interior green or silver by the 80's? TIA Brad Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Snowbird3a Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Brad, cockpit was black except for the grey intrument panel. I was in a wheel well in the 80s and it was yellow zinc chromate, but they could be painted aluminum as well. sadly, miles away from my desktop, loaded with reference pics. Tony Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brad-M Posted October 16, 2017 Author Share Posted October 16, 2017 Ok, sounds great Tony, thanks. Brad Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CF104 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Hi Brad, I didn't start working on the CT-133 until 1989 but at that time the landing gear, doors and wells were all painted silver. The photo references I have indicate the wells were silver in the early 80's too. Cheers, John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonSS3 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Maybe you can find something here that will be worthwhile. I took these at NAS Bermuda in 1991-92 time frame. http://s20.photobucket.com/user/DDonSS3/library/CT-133 Shooting Star Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brad-M Posted October 16, 2017 Author Share Posted October 16, 2017 Thanks John and Don. Brad Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Snowbird3a Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Brad, I haven't seen any decent wheels in 1/48 that match the 12-hole pattern that our T-birds had. How are the GWH ones, are they the spoked variety?? Cheers, Tony Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brad-M Posted October 17, 2017 Author Share Posted October 17, 2017 Hi Tony, Both kits that I have from GWH have the spoke type wheels and not the 12 hole version, so I need to source new wheels I guess. Even the Academy kit has the spoked version. Brad Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brad-M Posted October 17, 2017 Author Share Posted October 17, 2017 Hey Tony, Any idea why we had those tires in the first place? Did we ever start using the spoked version of tires before switching to the 12 hole version? Brad Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Snowbird3a Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 (edited) Brad, very early, we had the spoked wheels. We also had the wheels with oval/teardrop holes. Problem is, wheel detail is always in shadow in photos, so it’s hard to tell when the wheel types changed. I have no quality T-33 maintenance time, so must bow to other SMEs. Cheers, Tony Edited October 18, 2017 by Snowbird3a Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CF104 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Hey Brad, The spoked main wheels in the kit are correct for only the earliest of the T-33's prior to USAF S/N 49-985 which include only the first 134 Lockheed produced T-33A's. Our initial 31 T-33's (30 Mk 1 and 1 Mk 2 Nene test bed) were loaners from the USAF and were in the 50 to 51 S/N range which had the 8 hole main wheel and open teardrop nose wheel. All Canadair produced T-33AN Silver Star Mk 3's were delivered with the spoked nose wheel and 8 hole main wheels. The open teardrop nose wheel could be seen from time to time in the mid-late 50's as there was stock remaining from the USAF loaners and it was acceptable to use if the spoked wheel was not available. The 8 hole main wheel was replaced by the improved 12 hole wheel/brake assy. in the late 70's. This 12 hole wheel looks very similar to the F-104A/B/C/D main wheels but these have 9 holes instead of 12. Cheers, John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brad-M Posted November 23, 2017 Author Share Posted November 23, 2017 I'd like to resurrect this thread in search for a pic of the side of the wheel that is covered by the gear door. I have pics of the side showing the 12 hole side. Maybe we can get someone to do some 1/48 scale wheels for us Canucks :) TIA Brad Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scooby Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 On 11/22/2017 at 11:31 PM, Brad-M said: I'd like to resurrect this thread in search for a pic of the side of the wheel that is covered by the gear door. I have pics of the side showing the 12 hole side. Maybe we can get someone to do some 1/48 scale wheels for us Canucks :) TIA Brad I wish someone will produce one, I can take pictures next time I am at the museum, we have two t-birds. I am on one of the boards there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brad-M Posted November 26, 2017 Author Share Posted November 26, 2017 Sounds good. Thanks Gary. Brad Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonSS3 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 (edited) Hopefully these photos from the 1992-93 timeframe will help: https://postimg.org/gallery/q8u1qkx8/5c4a943b/ Some examples: Edited November 27, 2017 by DonSS3 Added Date Info Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brad-M Posted December 12, 2017 Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 Thanks very much! Brad Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brad-M Posted May 17, 2018 Author Share Posted May 17, 2018 Great news, My GWH Late T-33A arrived today and the kit has the 12-hole main wheels in the box. They look great, so I can finish my CT-133 hopefully for the Nationals in Phoenix. Cheers Brad Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scooby Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Brad-M said: Great news, My GWH Late T-33A arrived today and the kit has the 12-hole main wheels in the box. They look great, so I can finish my CT-133 hopefully for the Nationals in Phoenix. Cheers Brad Good to know🤪! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Scooby Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Brad-M said: Great news, My GWH Late T-33A arrived today and the kit has the 12-hole main wheels in the box. They look great, so I can finish my CT-133 hopefully for the Nationals in Phoenix. Cheers Brad Does it have the two dielectric panels on the nose? Ours only had the top one. Late ANG and USAF had both. Does it have two pitot tubes instead of one under the nose? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brad-M Posted May 17, 2018 Author Share Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) One pitot, one small antenna before the nose gear, and one larger antenna just aft of the nose gear. Two dielectric panels. All the GWH T-33A kits (three) have the two panels on the nose. Cheers Brad Edited May 17, 2018 by Brad-M Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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