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Thinking of painting my Hasegawa P40E soon and I quite like these 2 schemes......

 

https://www.super-hobby.com/zdjecia/3/1/7/3995_1-auto_downl.jpg (No.2, 20th  Pursuit Group)

 

 

http://www.hyperscale.com/images/az7400reviewmd_5.jpg  (No.2 James O Beckwith)

 

and Backwith's scheme again...

 

https://hobbydb-production.s3.amazonaws.com/processed_uploads/catalog_item_photo/catalog_item_photo/image/187209/United_States_Army_Air_Force_P-40E_Warhawk_Model_Aircraft_f4c07416-8be2-4e35-8887-70f7c708b984.jpg

 

 

Are the colours, markings correct etc?

 

 

 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Nightfighter said:

Thinking of painting my Hasegawa P40E soon and I quite like these 2 schemes......

 

https://www.super-hobby.com/zdjecia/3/1/7/3995_1-auto_downl.jpg (No.2, 20th  Pursuit Group)

 

 

http://www.hyperscale.com/images/az7400reviewmd_5.jpg  (No.2 James O Beckwith)

 

and Backwith's scheme again...

 

https://hobbydb-production.s3.amazonaws.com/processed_uploads/catalog_item_photo/catalog_item_photo/image/187209/United_States_Army_Air_Force_P-40E_Warhawk_Model_Aircraft_f4c07416-8be2-4e35-8887-70f7c708b984.jpg

 

 

Are the colours, markings correct etc?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well, at least the colors inside the glass panels behind the cockpit are incorrect: they should be the (initial) external camouflage color, not Interior Green.

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19 hours ago, seawinder said:

Well, at least the colors inside the glass panels behind the cockpit are incorrect: they should be the (initial) external camouflage color, not Interior Green.

 

   A most common mistake. perpetuated  by the kit manufactures that have their instructions often showing Interior Green. 

Joel

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On 10/29/2017 at 2:42 AM, gmat said:

Here is a photo of Beckwith's P-40E on a Britmodeler thread,

http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235028279-p-40bc-hawaii-early-1942-markings/

 

The vertical marking on the tail might be a recognition marking. Squirt II had two stripes.

 

Grant

 

 

Cheers for that.   Haven't seen those photos before.

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14 minutes ago, seawinder said:

To what "that" are you referring?

 

 

The colours inside the glass panelling.    Was it some model company who started putting the cockpit colour there or someone who did a profile?    We'll probably never know I suppose.  One of life's great mysteries!

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Probably not. It's certainly seems to be one of those urban myths that gets perpetuated. I imagine somebody at some point reasoned (plausibly but wrongly) that since those surfaces were behind glass, they were painted with interior colors. Incidentally, the same same appears to be true for razorback P-47s -- areas behind the rear glass panels were OD, not DDG or IG.

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I would suggest that the idea of interior green on the inside of the quarterlights is a misinterpretation of lightening of the underlying color in b&w photos from the effect of the plexiglas panel.

 

Mongo

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Obviously no one knows about those schemes then but does anyone know what shade of olive drab Beckwiths plane would have been?   I know drab could vary a lot but would it have been more green than brown?   I haven't got any Tamiya olive drab but I've got a tin of Tamiya XF58 olive green ... would that be ok?

 

Also the photo above shows it carrying a bomb but does anyone know if Beckwiths aircraft would have carried the auxilliary tank at any point?

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On 11/29/2017 at 9:42 PM, Nightfighter said:

Obviously no one knows about those schemes then but does anyone know what shade of olive drab Beckwiths plane would have been?   I know drab could vary a lot but would it have been more green than brown?   I haven't got any Tamiya olive drab but I've got a tin of Tamiya XF58 olive green ... would that be ok?

 

Also the photo above shows it carrying a bomb but does anyone know if Beckwiths aircraft would have carried the auxilliary tank at any point?

Olive Drab No. 42, I should think, which would be browner than greener. FWIW, I really like Mr. Color No. 12 ("Olive Drab I") as a good match to OD 42.

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On 12/2/2017 at 2:25 PM, Sowar said:

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OD 42 or MG 42?

MG 42 seems greener than OD 41 on this pic

 

P40E could carry a belly tank, 52 US gal only

 

 

Interesting contrast.   The reason I asked about the tank is because I've already added the 52 gallon tank a while back but I was wondering if anyone knows if it would have been attached to Beckwiths plane at some point (around the time the photos of Beckwiths aircraft were taken) as there only seems to be that 1 photo where it has the bomb attached.

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