ching kuo Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 hello everyone, can someone get me some pictures of the Chinese Future J-15 two seater, I have next project of a scratch build, I found some synthesis pictures , but not very good quality if someone can access this site "https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/j-15-carrier-multirole-fighter-thread.t6768/page-153" my access is limited to have high resolution images, it will be a great help and a big thank's in advance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
twong Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 I am waiting for one of those in 1/48. Some photos from 2012 and 2014. http://china-defense.blogspot.com/2014/10/photos-of-day-j-15s-twin-seater-trainer.html Here is a 3D rendering. Don't know how accurate it is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gene K Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 1 hour ago, ching kuo said: this site "https://www.sinodefenceforum.com/j-15-carrier-multirole-fighter-thread.t6768/page-153" Other photos on that site require logging in which I don't want to chance. Gene K Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ching kuo Posted November 15, 2017 Author Share Posted November 15, 2017 thank you guys, it's very hard to get pictures of this plane !! not even in 3D rendering Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mingwin Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 maybe search for J-15S instead? maybe there is not much picture available because there is very few flying airframes yet? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
flybywire Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 (edited) Sorry to steal this thread a little bit, but what is the best jumpstart kit to use in order to come up with the semblance of J-15, is it Su-33 or J-11? I ask becoz I read somewhere that you need to "steal" or should I say one could use many parts from the existing J-11 kits to build a neat J-15. Edited November 16, 2017 by flybywire Quote Link to post Share on other sites
twong Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 8 minutes ago, flybywire said: Sorry to steal this thread a little bit, but what is the best jumpstart kit to use in order to come up with the semblance of J-15, is it Su-33 or J-11? I ask becoz I read somewhere that you need to "steal" or should I say one could use many parts from the existing J-11 kits to build a neat J-15. Kinetic has a 1/48 J-15. http://www.luckymodel.com/scale.aspx?item_no=KI-K48065 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ching kuo Posted November 16, 2017 Author Share Posted November 16, 2017 7 hours ago, flybywire said: Sorry to steal this thread a little bit, but what is the best jumpstart kit to use in order to come up with the semblance of J-15, is it Su-33 or J-11? I ask becoz I read somewhere that you need to "steal" or should I say one could use many parts from the existing J-11 kits to build a neat J-15. yes, Kinetic will release a J-15 running 2018 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ching kuo Posted November 16, 2017 Author Share Posted November 16, 2017 11 hours ago, mingwin said: maybe search for J-15S instead? maybe there is not much picture available because there is very few flying airframes yet? Thanks mingwin, I try with J-15S it gives nothing, it's true, there are two or three prototypes J-15 twin seater flying very few Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cvn76 Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 I got the damn K kit today. Not J15 actually, the cockpit is still Su33 aging instrument, not glass cockpit. The windscreen still has the centremolding line. Only trade with the carrier working cart and the figures. Not recommend Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flankerman Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 I wouldn't get too excited about the J-15S in landing configuration - it is clearly photoshopped from this.... Source :- http://www.alwasatnews.com/news/1031773.html Ken Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mingwin Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Flankerman said: I wouldn't get too excited about the J-15S in landing configuration - it is clearly photoshopped from this.... Source :- http://www.alwasatnews.com/news/1031773.html Ken indeed, after looking back, i was dubious about the blurred zone of the hump Quote Link to post Share on other sites
flybywire Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 (edited) Hi Twong and Ching Kuo! Thanks for the heads-up! I just hope that parts specific for the J-15 will be included and not just a new decal sheet. Edited November 16, 2017 by flybywire Quote Link to post Share on other sites
twong Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 The Kinetic 1/48 J-15 is in stock at LuckyModel. http://www.luckymodel.com/scale.aspx?item_no=KI-K48065 Kinetic added the specific Chinese type pylons, missiles and decals. I don't have the kit so can't comment on the cockpit parts. LuckyModel also has in stock a set from Dream Model J-15 that has the updated cockpit displays in PE and resin pylons. http://www.luckymodel.com/scale.aspx?item_no=DMC48023 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ching kuo Posted November 16, 2017 Author Share Posted November 16, 2017 4 hours ago, Flankerman said: I wouldn't get too excited about the J-15S in landing configuration - it is clearly photoshopped from this.... Source :- http://www.alwasatnews.com/news/1031773.html Ken yes it's a fake !!! I did not see the detail ?? I saw a real picture, thanks for the information Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deino Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 There are indeed not many J-15S-images out ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deino Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 ... including one painted. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flankerman Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 What is the J-15S designed for ??? Strike?? Deck landing trainer??? Ken Quote Link to post Share on other sites
flanker27 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 S for shuang, or pair/dual/two in chinese, same goes for J-10S Quote Link to post Share on other sites
flybywire Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 1 hour ago, flanker27 said: S for shuang, or pair/dual/two in chinese, same goes for J-10S Two-seater? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deino Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 5 hours ago, Flankerman said: What is the J-15S designed for ??? Strike?? Deck landing trainer??? Ken As far as I know it was once planned as a trainer and maybe striker ... but latest rumours say it has been merged with the J-15D EW-variant as a multirole type similar to F/A-18F & EA-18G and the trainer role will be filled by another type. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
twong Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Early on the J-15S was supposed to be trainer/strike. The J-16 was supposed to be their version of the E/A-18G but now the J-16 is supposed to be EW/strike. The J-16 has no canards though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deino Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 16 minutes ago, twong said: Early on the J-15S was supposed to be trainer/strike. The J-16 was supposed to be their version of the E/A-18G but now the J-16 is supposed to be EW/strike. The J-16 has no canards though. But You have to differ between J-15 for Naval Aviation and J-16 for the Air Force. The J-16 was never "their version of the E/A-18G"; only the J-16D is. Since the J-15 is and was always a single seater the PLANAF needed a trainer = J-15T, which could also be a striker similar to the AF J-16. The PLAAF never needed a trainer since the J-16 is and was ever a twin-seater but both developed into similar roles esp. with the D-variant. So in the end, the PLANAF will get (eventually) the J-15 as a twin-seater as a combined variant for both the striker and EW-role, whereas the PLAAF introduces the J-16 also for both roles. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Flankerman Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 I raised the question - because the Russians tried to make a tandem two-seat deck landing trainer in a similar way to the PLANAF J-15S - combining a Su-33 with the two-seat cockpit from a Su-27UB They hit a problem because the rear instructors eyeline is a few feet above that of the trainee in the front cockpit. This doesn't matter on land (e.g. the Su-27UB trainer), but trying to train for landings on a carrier deck using a landing lens (Luna, Fresnel etc) to give the correct glideslope, the differing eyelines of the instructor and pupil caused a problem. That's why they developed the side-by-side seating on the Su-33UB - in which both crew members have the same eyeline. I wonder if the Chinese found this out the hard way??? Ken Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deino Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Good point ... and I don't know it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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