Peaches_Sabrina Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 So quick question has anyone here used Vallejo Surface Primer, and if so have you had any problems with it. I don't know if I got a bad batch or not, but it's almost watery and applying spotichily is the best way to describe it. I have thinned it down, and not change, though it's funny some times it applies beautifully other times it's enough to pull my hair out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cruiz Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Hello Just started to use it a few months ago, didn’t have the problems you mention and got somewhat decent results after I started applying it in thin coats (especially the first one) and let it dry a few minutes in between. What I found out is that different ratios of pressure, distance and thinning make it prone to tip drying which result in blobs of primer landing on the finish, what airbrush setup and what specific Vallejo product are you using? Regards Carlos Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JackMan Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Some videos that might help: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d3e__zE4dU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qK5FU_dYpRA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxw6HYNvkXY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqc4Q3QSJio I bought a bottle of the grey primer but I haven't used it yet. I've been looking at these videos to get some tips. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joel_W Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 I did use it when I tried Vallejo paints, and it didn't stick very well to raw plastic. It easily scratched and chipped. I've seen gone back to Tamiya gray primer and Mig Ammo Acrylic primers. Never had a single issue with either of them. I only use the Tamiya lacquer primers under lacquer paints. Everything else gets the Mig Ammo acrylic primers Joel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ElectroSoldier Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Does the plastic have release agent on it? Did you wash it? If there is no release agent on it try it on paper, see what happens. Sometimes the pigment can separate from the medium Quote Link to post Share on other sites
04yellowjeep Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 I have added a few drops of Future to an already thinned mix it seems to go on and stay on for me, clean up is a pain but when isn’t it ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joel_W Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 On 12/27/2017 at 11:00 AM, 04yellowjeep said: I have added a few drops of Future to an already thinned mix it seems to go on and stay on for me, clean up is a pain but when isn’t it ? Makes little sense to add a gloss medium to a primer as it decreases the little nooks and crannies that the paint pigment adheres to. One issue is that the plastic surface itself may be too smooth for the acrylic primer to get a proper bite to. you could polish the surfaces with 1,000 grit or so to just rough it up a tad. Joel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Matt Foley Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 I wont use it again. As a matter of fact, I will never use any water based primer again...Lacquer is the only way to go. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bashace Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 On 1/2/2018 at 4:34 AM, Mr Matt Foley said: I wont use it again. As a matter of fact, I will never use any water based primer again...Lacquer is the only way to go. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nspreitler Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 I've tried it, and it is the worst primer I've seen. It is fragile, lifts off with even the lowest tack tape, flakes and scratches easily. I use Badger Stynylrez or Mr Finishing Surfacer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joel_W Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 I tossed my bottle of Vallejo primer when it 1st came out as it stuck to nothing nor the paint to it. I've always used Tamiya primers since then, but lately have been using Mig Ammo primers, and have been impressed with them. Joel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fishwelding Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 I must confess, I've had similar experiences with Vallejo's polyurethane primer. I wanted to like it, since I like some of Vallejo's other products, and have used other brands of acrylic paints for years with great success. And I did some fairly comprehensive testing on clean scrap plastic, adhering to any instructions I found. (Generally, the advice was layer it on with very thin coats.) But the stuff came up easily with my finger nail, and tape would reliably lift it, too. I find a lot of Vallejo's Model Color and Model Air paints are similarly fragile, too. Ironically they, including the polyurethane primers, seemed to reliably stick when applied over gunze lacquer primers. I'm using up the last of it where adhesion isn't particularly important. Looking forward to trying Mig products, and Stynylrez. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joel_W Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 You're going to love the Mig Ammo paints and primers. They're my go to 1st choice these days, with Tamiya as my back up. Joel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jrpowell3 Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 Used to use Vallejo primer, hated it, couldn't make any corrections, couldn't sand, insanely fragile. I then switched to Stynylrez, I love the stuff. Tossed all my bottles of the Vallejo primer except for the light ghost gray one....I need that color. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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