anj4de Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Hello all I was lucky on E-bay the other day and got an old Esci Viking kit for very cheap! I had once built this when I was a teenager and remember it as nice but not much more! Could someone please point me to reviews, build threats and AM parts if those are needed? I have already looked at the Eduard cockpit and the seats from Wolfpack. Any hints or comments on that kit would be welcome. Preferabaly I would like to have it fitting to my 1977 VF-84 Tomact...I also have a Vigilante planned from that time frame. thanks Uwe Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonSS3 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 (edited) There is quite a bit of aftermarket for the S-3 in 1/48. I've got a set of "Early" Fan/Inlet set from Sierra Hotel Models and a metal Scale Aircraft Conversions landing gear set. I don't know that metal is needed, but as I'm adding a resin cockpit, I thought it couldn't hurt (plus I got a good deal oneBay). I also have the True Details Cockpit Set for the S-3B that I think was originally from KMC. Someone also makes a new Sonobuoy Launcher section replacement that has the mods of the S-3B belly area that the S-3B had. You may need to do some searching on your favorite vendors' site(s), but there is stuff out there for it. Here's some pics of the engine set: The photos aren't the best, but you can see that the fan blades are much sharper than the original plastic. Edited December 12, 2017 by DonSS3 Added Photos Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Some S-3 aftermarket Wheels http://www.royaleresin.net/products/productpage/r033.html S-3B conversion set https://phasehangarresin.com/collections/48001-1-48/products/48009-s-3b-viking-conversion-set-esci-italeri Wingfold (Recommended as it has a very large wingspan. http://www.wolfpack-d.com/catalog/htm/wp48131.html Vacform canopy https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/SQS9643 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Collin Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 5 hours ago, anj4de said: Hello all I was lucky on E-bay the other day and got an old Esci Viking kit for very cheap! I had once built this when I was a teenager and remember it as nice but not much more! Could someone please point me to reviews, build threats and AM parts if those are needed? I have already looked at the Eduard cockpit and the seats from Wolfpack. Any hints or comments on that kit would be welcome. Preferabaly I would like to have it fitting to my 1977 VF-84 Tomact...I also have a Vigilante planned from that time frame. thanks Uwe What timeframe are you going to build your Viking toward? If you are talking ~1977, then don't worry about any aftermarket S-3B items. In 1977 the S-3A was the only model flying (the B model came out years later toward the end of the 80's/early 90's). Recommend replacement of the intakes and engine fan regardless, but keep the old style round wingtip ESM detectors, and the full sonobuoy launcher on the underside. Don't add the ALE-39 chaff/flare dispensers (B mod only). You can load it out on the wings with standard drop tanks and/or bombs/MK20 cluster weapons (no Harpoon/buddy refueling podl, B mod only). Torpedoes or MK-82 slick weapons in the bomb bays are good as well. Cheers Collin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
anj4de Posted December 12, 2017 Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 Thanks a lot all...great input already. The kit should be here in a couple of days. A basement find, so I assume the decals will be trash, but the rest is still in the bags...not too bad for 15EUR ;-) So far I lean torwards a 1977 Nimitz bird...even though I just spotted the VS-21 retirement sceme which I also like a lot! The pin-up looks just great...:-) thanks Uwe Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Collin Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 (edited) That is a great shot of an original S-3A (markings and round ESM antennas are a dead give away). Interesting to see the panel fasteners so stark in contrast to the white and gull grey. Was this picture taken on "December the 6th, 1941"? I'm sure others will get the joke. Cheers Collin Edited December 12, 2017 by Collin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
anj4de Posted December 12, 2017 Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 ..." Was this picture taken on "December the 6th, 1941"? I'm sure others will get the joke. "... Yes, just at the time the RF-8 was on it's recce run over Pearl... :-) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Darren Roberts Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 What if I go back in time and meet my grandfather, long before he has kids. We get into an argument and I kill him. How can I ever be born to go back in time and kill him? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
anj4de Posted December 13, 2017 Author Share Posted December 13, 2017 29 minutes ago, Darren Roberts said: What if I go back in time and meet my grandfather, long before he has kids. We get into an argument and I kill him. How can I ever be born to go back in time and kill him? :-) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skyhawk174 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Goffy Model made a weapons and wheel bay set in resin but sadly it is out of production. I have the Paragon Models wing fold set and was unaware that Wolfpack had made an equivalent set. I built my Viking when the kit came out many years ago in the ESCI box and of course I broke the landing gear. The landing gear is very fine so that is probably why that happened. I think SAC makes a set and I might get it for my next one. Or I could simply not play with my kits when done :) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MajorTom2004 Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Hi anj4de. PMed you. Cheers Thomas Quote Link to post Share on other sites
titan8251 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Just watched the movie the other day.....good flick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonSS3 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 (edited) On 12/12/2017 at 11:37 PM, skyhawk174 said: Goffy Model made a weapons and wheel bay set in resin but sadly it is out of production. I have the Paragon Models wing fold set and was unaware that Wolfpack had made an equivalent set. I built my Viking when the kit came out many years ago in the ESCI box and of course I broke the landing gear. The landing gear is very fine so that is probably why that happened. I think SAC makes a set and I might get it for my next one. Or I could simply not play with my kits when done :) SAC does/did make a metal gear set for the S-3. I've got one in the stash (and no, you can't have it). Edited December 15, 2017 by DonSS3 Typo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DonSS3 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 (edited) I've got one of these Phase Hanger conversion sets on the way, it looks pretty nice in their photo. I'm not real good at scratchbuilding, and really I'm not wanting to take the time to do so, so this will help me a lot. This is the aircraft I want to do: http://www.airfighters.com/photo/80610/M/USA-NASA/Lockheed-S-3B-Viking/N601NA/ I've already got decals, a cockpit set, SAC landing gear and the nacelles/fans I posted earlier. Edited December 20, 2017 by DonSS3 Added Photo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vidar_710 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 (edited) To match the correct Hoover squadron with VF-84 in CAG-8 during that time would be the VS-24 Scouts. Im a retired S-3A/B Sensor Operator. The one thing I see, even from the most gifted modelers, is painting the S-3’s rear canopies. The TACCO and SENSO canopies ‘are’ clear, but they are layered with a Light Gull Gray adhiesive paper backing to block out daylight. Without it, the back seaters had no chance seeing what was on their display monitors. For a good affect, slightly darken Light Gull Gray and paint the canopy panels. To give the look of depth to create the “paper backed affect”, add sever coats of High Clear Gloss over the panels. note the NASA S-3 above. Even in a white paint scheme, the paper backing was never changed out to match the external paint. During the TPS scheme days, the rear canopies were still Light Gull Gray paper backed. Tracy Edited December 20, 2017 by Vidar_710 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skyhawk174 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 29 minutes ago, Vidar_710 said: To match the correct Hoover squadron with VF-84 in CAG-8 during that time would be the VS-24 Scouts. Im a retired S-3A/B Sensor Operator. The one thing I see, even from the most gifted modelers, is painting the S-3’s rear canopies. The TACCO and SENSO canopies ‘are’ clear, but they are layered with a Light Gull Gray adhiesive paper backing to block out daylight. Without it, the back seaters had no chance seeing what was on their display monitors. For a good affect, slightly darken Light Gull Gray and paint the canopy panels. To give the look of depth to create the “paper backed affect”, add sever coats of High Clear Gloss over the panels. note the NASA S-3 above. Even in a white paint scheme, the paper backing was never changed out to match the external paint. During the TPS scheme days, the rear canopies were still Light Gull Gray paper backed. Tracy In the ESCI and Italeri kit the sensor operators panels are solid anyway. Missed that those panels are a different colour so thanks for the reminder. Will remember to do that on my next Viking. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
titan8251 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Hey man, do you have the decals to do a VS-24 Viking? I may have some from that old Aeromaster sheet airwing 8 that they did. Also, those are the same squadrons and airwing from the movie the Final Countdown. Andy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Collin Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 If you have any interest in the NASA bird(s), my buddy JD just did this photo work with this magazine. JD and I flew together in the fleet. NASA will be getting rid if the S-3's a few years from now. https://view.joomag.com/aviation-photojournal-september-october-2017/0276082001504306466?token=xBd7xtAGSSqOjuMAXE079BBb3I9HLuEz8ACOaVUbC4Ld%2BDT3LMqmIszpuCMeUrdT9hjHq8Gk5I3dCa4ULhS0GVJJjk4eF6H5Amu%2BF3RhX%2B13UvzLk%2F1X%2FjnuJvXYWgxOeZiP%2FT7NRLJQitP%2BficvR9GKeAISiwaHBBYGIX1keRQzQnwT07uDKZ6%2BGNysWQX3Gepk0%2BS2cXe9v%2FTA92n3UA%3D%3D&ref=email Cheers Collin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pappy121 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 On 12/13/2017 at 1:15 AM, Stephen said: Some S-3 aftermarket Wheels http://www.royaleresin.net/products/productpage/r033.html S-3B conversion set https://phasehangarresin.com/collections/48001-1-48/products/48009-s-3b-viking-conversion-set-esci-italeri Wingfold (Recommended as it has a very large wingspan. http://www.wolfpack-d.com/catalog/htm/wp48131.html Vacform canopy https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/SQS9643 G'day Steven, A lot of those aftermarket bits look like the Two Bob's resin parts, did Phase Hangar Resin take up the molds? Good to know that these bits are available again, cheers, Pappy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
habu2 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Pappy121 said: A lot of those aftermarket bits look like the Two Bob's resin parts..... Two Bobs was in the resin business ???? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vidar_710 Posted December 20, 2017 Share Posted December 20, 2017 Oh yeah, I'm aware how the panels are molded... just giving some advise on how to recreate the clear canopy with paper backing technique. I did 2 sea tours with VS-22 Checkmates callsign The Vidars. Heres a couple of Checkmate builds of mine from over 20 years ago... Tracy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skyhawk174 Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 1 hour ago, habu2 said: Two Bobs was in the resin business ???? Yeah what he said... I thought Two Bobs was only decals. You must be talking about Sierra Hotel parts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Darren Roberts Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 23 minutes ago, skyhawk174 said: Yeah what he said... I thought Two Bobs was only decals. You must be talking about Sierra Hotel parts. It was Two Mikes, who originally were kind of connected to Two Bobs. Two Mikes took some time off and then rebranded themselves as Phase Hangar Resin. The Two Mikes parts are the theirs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pappy121 Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 3 hours ago, habu2 said: Two Bobs was in the resin business ???? 1 hour ago, Darren Roberts said: It was Two Mikes, who originally were kind of connected to Two Bobs. Two Mikes took some time off and then rebranded themselves as Phase Hangar Resin. The Two Mikes parts are the theirs. Apologies, I meant Two Mikes! Thanks for clearing that up, cheers, Pappy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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