BillS Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 I’m narrowing my markings choices down for my ZM F-4D. I’m leaning toward Ritchie’s former 463 when it was assigned to the 18 TFW at Kadena with “ZZ” tail codes. At the time it carried those codes it had white and black stenciling. I thought stencilling would be easy to track down but it ain’t. The kit sheet has all black and I can’t find white after searching til I’m cross eyed. Any ideas? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ben Brown Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 (edited) There was once a Microscale sheet for white stencils but it is very hard to find. I used it 20+ years ago on a Phantom FGR.2 and I haven't seen that sheet since. I don't know of any others. It would be nice if someone like Furball were to do a set like their F-4B stencils. Ben Edited March 23, 2018 by Ben Brown Quote Link to post Share on other sites
habu2 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Microscale sheet 48-67 had black stencil data, 48-76 had white stencil data. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mingwin Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 (edited) even if they are designed for f-4E , icarus makes a white stencil decal sheet, most should be usable. and are easily available . like at the48ers.com (i have no share in that business, just a very satisfied customer) Edited March 24, 2018 by mingwin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RichB63 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Some more readily available options... Microscale (new edition) http://www.microscale.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Session_ID=cd9c9c19fd4c4de38e26eb99724cdab6&Screen=PROD&Product_Code=AC48-0052&Store_Code=MD&search=Phantom+data&offset=&filter_cat=&PowerSearch_Begin_Only=&sort=&range_low=&range_high= Warbird Decals http://store.spruebrothers.com/product_p/wbd480 Unlike the old Microscale offerings, the Icarus sheets and the hard to find Afterburner Decals Phantom stencils, the products referenced above do not include the tiny “panel numbers.” Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RichB63 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 (edited) White panel numbers for Phantoms in 1/48...http://www.hobbydecal.com/detail.cgi?number=st48042v1 http://store.spruebrothers.com/product_p/hodst48042v1.htm Edited March 24, 2018 by RichB63 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SebastianP Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 While on the topic of white stencils and after market sheets for the F-4, I'm wondering if anyone can help me ID a scheme from a description? Years and years back, the first time I visited the local hobby show (must be nearly two decades ago now), one of the most memorable models of the entire show was an 1/48 long-nose Phantom (I'm pretty sure it was a Hasegawa F-4G), in of the "camo on top, white belly" schemes, which was absolutely covered in stencils. The thing that really stands out most in my mind is a circle of words, in white, on the top of the nose between the windscreen and radome. It may have been an anniversary of some sort, no idea. Anyway, since this model was pretty much the one that awoke my interest in the type, I've been thinking that when I finally get my hands on an F-4G kit, this might be a good scheme to display it in. Now I just need to ID it.. Can anyone help? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mingwin Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 (edited) hi SebastianP, in that precise hasegawa boxing there was the decal option you're looking for LINK (561st TFS, 35th TFW, George AFB California) 69208 crashed march 1st, 1995 "city of Victorville" F-4G on google image LINK Edited March 24, 2018 by mingwin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SebastianP Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 (edited) Thank you kindly, @mingwin! Sad to hear that the bird itself is gone, though Joe Baugher's USAF serials list tells me the crew made it out safely at least. Does anyone make a sheet for this bird in 1/72? Edited March 24, 2018 by SebastianP Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ben Brown Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 9 hours ago, RichB63 said: White panel numbers for Phantoms in 1/48...http://www.hobbydecal.com/detail.cgi?number=st48042v1 http://store.spruebrothers.com/product_p/hodst48042v1.htm I think HobbyDecal might be out of business, but their web site is still up and the order function is still active. If you decide to use them, order from Sprue Brothers. I had forgotten about Icarus' stencils. I have a sheet of their black ones right here in front of me! Ben Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BillS Posted March 24, 2018 Author Share Posted March 24, 2018 Thanks guys for all of your ideas. We really do need a “new school” set of stencils for c/d jets. There probably could be some offerings for post vietnam era airplanes as well aside from reserve and ang. There are some interesting markings for tac, pacaf and usafe that have been overlooked. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ben Brown Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 On 3/24/2018 at 11:26 AM, BillS said: Thanks guys for all of your ideas. We really do need a “new school” set of stencils for c/d jets. There probably could be some offerings for post vietnam era airplanes as well aside from reserve and ang. There are some interesting markings for tac, pacaf and usafe that have been overlooked. Agreed. I've been hoping Furball would follow their F-4B/N stencils with some others. I've been campaigning for some more 4th TFW F-4D and E decals, and there are also a lot of ANG and USAF F-4 subjects that have been neglected. Ben Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IAGeezer Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 For the truly brave, Testors included the City of Victorville markings in their 1/48th F-4F/F-4G kit. Also, here's Roger Jackson's F-4D build on MM, where he hits the stencilling challenge very well. Very clean build, along with great writing. Enjoy; http://modelingmadness.com/review/viet/jacksonf4d.htm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jmel Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 (edited) https://www.facebook.com/177633712268219/photos/a.188705841161006.45778.177633712268219/1804530459578528/?type=3&theater New white stencil sheets a'comin' Edited March 26, 2018 by jmel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GEH737 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Really happy to hear that Jake. My Nevada RF-4C's will be much better off because of that :) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alpagueur Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 On 26/3/2018 at 3:13 PM, IAGeezer said: Also, here's Roger Jackson's F-4D build on MM, where he hits the stencilling challenge very well. Very clean build, along with great writing. Enjoy; http://modelingmadness.com/review/viet/jacksonf4d.htm wow, it's very nice with all those white stenicils! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
habu2 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Not to take away from Jake's upcoming release, but many old Microscale F-4 sheets (examples 48-147 & -148) include extensive stencil markings, some sheets in white, some in black. However their placement instruction sheet sucks big time, to the point it's mostly unreadable. Having said that I'm sure a new sheet printed with current technology would be preferable to the old Microscale sheets. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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