Mstor Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 (edited) Here's an aggressor scheme you don't see every day. Psychedelic man ;-) I guess its called the Volcanic Aggressor. Edited April 6, 2018 by Mstor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Slartibartfast Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 <Tommy Chong> Like, wow, man. </Tommy Chong> Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew D. the Jolly Rogers guy Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 ....crikey.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted April 7, 2018 Author Share Posted April 7, 2018 I actually think that I have enough Japanese aggressor decals to do this one. Just a matter of trying match the bright red and the weird maroon colors. For those who are interested, there are more pics posted on the USAF, USMC & USN Aggressor / Adversary Aircraft group on Facebook. That group is a wealth of info and pics of US aggressor/adversary aircraft. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skyhawk174 Posted April 7, 2018 Share Posted April 7, 2018 Wow that is far out man!!! The JASDF sure don't shy away from wild schemes. Did you also notice that they continue to mask around the stencils so that just makes it more difficult for us modellers. I would think this will be in an upcoming Hasegawa F-15 release. Same kit, new decals and call it new. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted April 7, 2018 Author Share Posted April 7, 2018 Actually, as far as decals are concerned, it looks like all one would need are the aircraft numbers and the unit badge on the tails. I have Two Bobs' old sheet with badges and numbers. DXM makes a sheet with numbers for Japanese aggressor F-15s. Many of the Hasegawa F-15 aggressor kits would have that unit badge too. The Two Bobs aggressor sheet had stencils already surrounded by a grey backing color, so no masking, though would still have to mask the various panels that are masked too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted April 22, 2018 Author Share Posted April 22, 2018 Jim at Advanced Modeling Products has just completed a mask set for this scheme. Quite complex and will involve some challenges to get it to look right, but a great start. Here's a link if interested: http://www.advmodprds.com/am48-257.html I am in no way connected with AMP, just a satisfied customer. I did ask Jim if he would make the set for this aircraft though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted April 24, 2018 Author Share Posted April 24, 2018 I have found some more photos of this aircraft in my searches and have found one that is very interesting. Shown below, note the color of the bare metal section on the bottom of this aircraft. It is a very dark color, almost as if it has been blued. I found a couple more photos showing this color, but the rest show the normal silverish color. Has anyone seen this before? It is certainly new to me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted April 25, 2018 Author Share Posted April 25, 2018 Nobody has any comments on the color of the bare metal section of this F-15? I am really interesting to know what this is. Is it just heat discoloration? Looks kind of extreme for that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Waco Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Looks normal to me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted April 28, 2018 Author Share Posted April 28, 2018 34 minutes ago, Waco said: Looks normal to me. Really? This is what I am used to seeing in that area of F-15s... I think this one is significantly different. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Skull Leader Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 exposure differences. Pretty sure they're the same color. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted April 29, 2018 Author Share Posted April 29, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, Skull Leader said: exposure differences. Pretty sure they're the same color. OK... I don't know enough about photography, especially digital photography, to argue with that conclusion. I guess there's also the possibility that some color adjustment was done to the photo, so I just don't know. I just found the photo strange and, actually, attractive, with the darker color bare metal. Thanks for the input. Edited April 29, 2018 by Mstor Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mingwin Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 (edited) from that photo, it looks more like the usual thing... and that photo was taken before the paint job (but retain the same fuel tanks) shows the "light" color of the engine area. the photos come from "flyteam.jp" and they have a few photos of 32-8082 airframe. Edited April 29, 2018 by mingwin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted April 29, 2018 Author Share Posted April 29, 2018 6 hours ago, mingwin said: from that photo, it looks more like the usual thing... Yes, I stated in my original post about this that I had other photos that showed the same aircraft with the more normal Silver/Aluminum looking color. I have the same pics from flyteam.jp. I am still confused by the very dark color. Seems weird that it could be some sort of "exposure difference". I would think we would see more pics like the first of other aircraft with this area very dark if that were so. I also cannot see why anyone would photoshop it to look like this. That just doesn't make sense. Oh well, I guess I am not going to find an answer that satisfies my skeptical nature. Unless anyone has some real evidence of why this occurred, I declare this line of questioning over Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Waco Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 It's the aliens. After the jet flies through the aliens' provided chemtrails used to mind control the population (and convince them to ignore the lizard people colony under New York City), it tends to discolor the outer surface of the exposed metal panels near the exhausts. Fortunately, a quick scrub off through the wash rack clears up the whole problem. Just don't tell anybody this.....OPSEC and all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted April 29, 2018 Author Share Posted April 29, 2018 50 minutes ago, Waco said: It's the aliens. After the jet flies through the aliens' provided chemtrails used to mind control the population (and convince them to ignore the lizard people colony under New York City), it tends to discolor the outer surface of the exposed metal panels near the exhausts. Fortunately, a quick scrub off through the wash rack clears up the whole problem. Just don't tell anybody this.....OPSEC and all. Finally, someone comes up with a reasonable explanation. Thanks, you have reaffirmed my belief that scale modelers are all completely insane. Trust me, I know. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skyhawk174 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 YEah I would hve to agree that the dark colour is a result of the angle that the photo was taken. To be that different would mean even more heat than normal in that area and then it would have spread if it was that intense. Just my 0.1 cents worth of speculation Also, looking at the drop tanks it is nice that they are not handed. Although to be honest that whole scheme looks to be a maskers nightmare. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
habu2 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 Japan has replaced the titanium structure around the engines with carbon fiber. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
habu2 Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 They used to say “a picture never lies”. That was before digital cameras and heavy-handed post processing.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted April 30, 2018 Author Share Posted April 30, 2018 12 hours ago, skyhawk174 said: YEah I would hve to agree that the dark colour is a result of the angle that the photo was taken. To be that different would mean even more heat than normal in that area and then it would have spread if it was that intense. Just my 0.1 cents worth of speculation Also, looking at the drop tanks it is nice that they are not handed. Although to be honest that whole scheme looks to be a maskers nightmare. Here's another photo from a different angle. Area's still dark but not as much. Here's a link to another photo showing an aggressor banking away and the color of the rear bare metal is almost as dark as the first one. https://www.airplane-pictures.net/photo/640856/72-8090-japan-air-self-defence-force-mitsubishi-f-15dj/ So, it looks like there may be actual darkening of the area, but that the pic angle is exaggerating it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
airmechaja Posted April 30, 2018 Share Posted April 30, 2018 20 hours ago, habu2 said: They used to say “a picture never lies”. That was before digital cameras and heavy-handed post processing.... All pics in this day and age are manipulated. I wouldn't put much stock in the last 20 years of photography being in on re-touched condition. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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