huey_crew_chief Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 How much of the kit needs to be cut off to fit the new exhaust piece? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ScaleWorx Posted September 17, 2018 Author Share Posted September 17, 2018 Test assembly of the first composite main rotor set 🙂 Cheers, John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ScaleWorx Posted September 17, 2018 Author Share Posted September 17, 2018 20 hours ago, huey_crew_chief said: How much of the kit needs to be cut off to fit the new exhaust piece? Approximately 45mm of the existing engine deck. This is covered on the instruction sheet 😉 section Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hawkwrench Posted September 17, 2018 Share Posted September 17, 2018 Are you going to do the rest of the UH-60M conversion? --New IP panel and center console --New Crew Chief seats --Composite stabilator --Upgraded missle warning electronics Hope so. Count me for a set if so!!! Tim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ScaleWorx Posted September 18, 2018 Author Share Posted September 18, 2018 18 hours ago, hawkwrench said: Are you going to do the rest of the UH-60M conversion? --New IP panel and center console --New Crew Chief seats --Composite stabilator --Upgraded missle warning electronics Hope so. Count me for a set if so!!! Tim Hi Tim, Based on the poor sales since the Upturned Exhaust System was released and low enquiries for the new composite main rotor blades, It'll be very unlikely that ScaleWorx will be investing in making other aftermarket goodies for the 1/48 Black Hawk. I'll will keep them in production though, as it was quite a bit of work to make the masters. Sorry about this, but I need to focus projects that are in demand. Ironically, majority of the sales were to Taiwan and Sweden, and not the USA. Might still make the barrier filters one day as a final add on ;) Cheers, John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HeavyArty Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 I can see where the UES would be useful for H-60Ls as well. The rotor blades are only used on the newer H-60M though. So w/out the rest of the M mods, the rotors are pretty useless. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ScaleWorx Posted September 18, 2018 Author Share Posted September 18, 2018 HeavyArty, Thanks for your feedback. You are the first one to give a solid opinion on this. I considered the UES and the new rotor blades to be the biggest obstacle for modelers. The smaller changes I thought to have been within the average modelers abilities to modify themselves. I would appreciate more feedback from the guys, and if reference material can be sourced of what is a true requirement for the Mike model, it can be reconsidered. Cheers, John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CharlieUH-1H Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 All I can say Ian that’s this is a really dedicated work of art.. for or how much that will sell sir? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ScaleWorx Posted September 18, 2018 Author Share Posted September 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, CharlieUH-1H said: All I can say Ian that’s this is a really dedicated work of art.. for or how much that will sell sir? Thanks CharlieUH-1H, The Upturned Exhaust System and the new composite rotor blades is sold as a set for 20 US Dollars. Shipping via registered airmail is 12 US Dollars. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
huey_crew_chief Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 So do some or most of the ordinary UH60Ls have the upturned exhaust now? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hawkwrench Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 The older L models are getting the the new blades when they are coming out of phase/reset as far as I know. As far as what you need for a Mike conversion set, I can help with any info you may need. Feel free to PM me. A 1/48 UH-60M conversion set would fill a hole in an otherwise blank part of helicopter modeling considering the whole Army fleet is converting over to either M models or V models which both share the same mods. Tim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tony9409 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 As one in the USA that got a couple of sets... I thank you for the work you did they came out really well. I'll take a set of rotors or two 🙂 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
huey_crew_chief Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 1 hour ago, hawkwrench said: The older L models are getting the the new blades when they are coming out of phase/reset as far as I know. As far as what you need for a Mike conversion set, I can help with any info you may need. Feel free to PM me. A 1/48 UH-60M conversion set would fill a hole in an otherwise blank part of helicopter modeling considering the whole Army fleet is converting over to either M models or V models which both share the same mods. Tim Tim, thanks for the info. I plan on doing an L with this conversion. I plan to use the Italeri kit. So the UH60Ls have the upturned exhaust, but not the new blades? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hawkwrench Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 I've personally only seen 1 pic of a L model with the UES. It's my understanding eventually all hawks will have the new swept tip blades. All M models have the new blades and almost all being modded to the new UES. The V model is an old L model that has been reset and upgraded with the new avionics suite. This is a quote from an article about the V models. The UH-60V Black Hawk program will modernize the Army’s fleet of UH‑60L helicopters through cost-effective cockpit upgrades. The new system is nearly identical to the UH‑60M pilot-vehicle interface, providing common training and operational employment Tim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wafu Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Excuse my ignorance on the Blackhawk family but doesn’t the new blade look like what’s fitted to the S92A? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HeavyArty Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 (edited) Disregard. Edited September 20, 2018 by HeavyArty Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hawkwrench Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Just need scaleworx to do the new crashworthy seats now. Tim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Airframe Guy Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 The wide cord blade (swept tip) is only on the UH-60M (and the other services varients of the M). The UH-60L and the UH-60V still use the legacy blade. The wide cord blade will not work on the L & V models. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hawkwrench Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 20 minutes ago, Airframe Guy said: The wide cord blade (swept tip) is only on the UH-60M (and the other services varients of the M). The UH-60L and the UH-60V still use the legacy blade. The wide cord blade will not work on the L & V models. Huh, I stand corrected. I was under the understanding that eventually all hawks would have the swept tip blades. So why aren't they L and V models not going to use them??? Tim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
markm1245 Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 San Diego fire's new S-70i has the wide cord swept tip blades. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Airframe Guy Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 The M blade is completely different. The cuff is similar but the rest is based off of the S-92 blade. the wider cord of the blade increases the lift and changes the dynamic performance of the blade. This changes how the airframe and it’s systems operate. The M was designed around the blade and its performance. The L and the V are not capable of operating with this blade. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hawkwrench Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Thanks for the correction. What kind of issues have occured with the L/V models that negate the use of the wide chord blades? They're all composite, so weight shouldn't be a factor. Because they provide more lift and performance, it seems they would incorporate them fleet wide. Tim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ScaleWorx Posted September 20, 2018 Author Share Posted September 20, 2018 Well this is very interesting. Thanks for the feedback. I'm gonna play safe and make them as separate products. I'll look into making the other mods for the Mike model Black Hawks in the future, as I'm already working on another project for the 1/48 Alouette III gunship conversion. Cheers, John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hawkwrench Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Mark, can I post the san diego helo over on FB? Tim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
markm1245 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 I Don't see why not . I downloaded the photos from FB but don't recall the original posters name for credit. Helis.com's FB page had a link to story a few days ago you could link too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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