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Hi guys,

 

Last year I decided to start using acrylics, mainly Gunze and Tamiya, and I'm having a hard time with clear coats. What do you guys use for:

1.- Gloss Coats

2.- Flat Coats

3.- Satin Coats

 

What thinner do you recommend? I was used to Testor Laquer gloss and clear coats (using Testor's own Enamel Thinner :rolleyes:), but I don't know if it will work with acrylics.

 

Thanks for the help! :worship:

 

Regards,

 

Tato 

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1. Gloss coats....   Tamiya x-22 thinned with Mr color Leveling Thinner about 50-50.  Can't be beat!

2. Flat coats ....Model Master Acryl Flat Clear thinned with their thinner.

3.  Satin coats....Model Master Acryl Semi Gloss thinned with their thinner.

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I use the same as the post above. The Acryl flat isn't as dead flat as the lacquer you are used to, but it's pretty fool proof. Lacquer clear coats will work with acrylics, but you better wait a few weeks between painting and clear coating just to be sure.

 

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On 4/13/2018 at 1:12 PM, Tato said:

Last year I decided to start using acrylics, mainly Gunze and Tamiya

 

If you want to stay strictly with acrylics, then Tamiya X-22 thinned with Tamiya X-20A will yield great results.  Gunze H20 Flat Clear thinned with Gunze Aqueous thinner is dead flat.  Tamiya now makes X-35 Semi-Gloss Clear and XF-86 Flat Clear, but I have not tried them.  These two should work great when thinned with X-20A also.

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I have used Tamiya's XF-86 clear flt on the last couple of models I finished and Tamiya's clear gloss for gloss coats, both thinned with X-20A. Haven't used any semi-gloss

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Hello!

 

Thanks a lot to all for the help.

 

On 13/4/2018 at 5:21 PM, Bob Beary said:

1. Gloss coats....   Tamiya x-22 thinned with Mr color Leveling Thinner about 50-50.  Can't be beat!

2. Flat coats ....Model Master Acryl Flat Clear thinned with their thinner.

3.  Satin coats....Model Master Acryl Semi Gloss thinned with their thinner.

Hi Bob, never really paid to much attention to Model Master Acrylic clear coats. May be I should give them a try!

 

On 14/4/2018 at 10:47 PM, spejic said:

I use the same as the post above. The Acryl flat isn't as dead flat as the lacquer you are used to, but it's pretty fool proof. Lacquer clear coats will work with acrylics, but you better wait a few weeks between painting and clear coating just to be sure.

 

Hi Spejic, what is a good thinner for lacquer clear coats?

 

22 hours ago, RichardL said:

 

If you want to stay strictly with acrylics, then Tamiya X-22 thinned with Tamiya X-20A will yield great results.  Gunze H20 Flat Clear thinned with Gunze Aqueous thinner is dead flat.  Tamiya now makes X-35 Semi-Gloss Clear and XF-86 Flat Clear, but I have not tried them.  These two should work great when thinned with X-20A also.

Hi Richard, I tried Gunze H20, but I didn't like to much the result. I'm sure there's something I'm not doing good. I didn't got a flat surface, may be it was the thinner...

 

Thanks again to all for the help.

 

Regards,

 

Tato

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2 hours ago, Tato said:

Hi Richard, I tried Gunze H20, but I didn't like to much the result. I'm sure there's something I'm not doing good. I didn't got a flat surface, may be it was the thinner...

 

How are you applying the gloss clear coats and the flat clear coats?

 

Below is a picture I just took showing Tamiya X-22 thinned with Tamiya X-20A on the left spoon and Gunze H20 thinned with Gunze Aqueous thinner on the right spoon:

 

clearcoats.jpg.ebed68c9de340757615569b0b6f04a02.jpg

 

Both were applied with my Iwata gravity feed airbrush with a 0.5mm needle.  As you can see, Tamiya X-22 is glossy and Gunze H20 is flat.

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Hello: I usethe ones from AMMO MiG Gimenez. But, in order to obtain a gloss finish, you must apply 2 or 3 thin layers. Another brand I use is K-4, a chilean one, and the best for me, Sicko, wich is a local brand here (Argentina).

Happy Modeling!:cheers:

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Hi Richard,

 

Thank you very much for the photos, very clarifying. I'm using Gunze H30 Gloss Clear which it's working relatively ok. But for the H20 Flat Coat, I'm not having good results. I'm pretty sure is the thinner. I've notice that I'm using a different one from the one you have. I think is for the other type of gunze paints (not the aqueouse ones).

21 hours ago, RichardL said:

 

How are you applying the gloss clear coats and the flat clear coats?

 

Below is a picture I just took showing Tamiya X-22 thinned with Tamiya X-20A on the left spoon and Gunze H20 thinned with Gunze Aqueous thinner on the right spoon:

 

clearcoats.jpg.ebed68c9de340757615569b0b6f04a02.jpg

 

Both were applied with my Iwata gravity feed airbrush with a 0.5mm needle.  As you can see, Tamiya X-22 is glossy and Gunze H20 is flat.

 

That gloss coat is beautiful! Definitively gonna give it a try!

 

3 hours ago, dagger00 said:

Hello: I usethe ones from AMMO MiG Gimenez. But, in order to obtain a gloss finish, you must apply 2 or 3 thin layers. Another brand I use is K-4, a chilean one, and the best for me, Sicko, wich is a local brand here (Argentina).

Happy Modeling!:cheers:

 

Hi Dagger, thank you for your help. I tried the one from AMMO, the Lucky Ultra Matt. Didn't like it that much, found it very difficult to handle. Never heard that K-4 made clear coats, may be I should give them a try!

 

Regards!

 

Tato

 

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On 4/15/2018 at 7:06 PM, Tato said:

Hi Spejic, what is a good thinner for lacquer clear coats?

 

I always used the cans, so I don't know.

 

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I recently switched to Tamiya X-22 thinned 1/2 and 1/2 with Gunze Mr Color Leveling Thinner. Beautiful smooth high gloss finishes. Much easier to use than Future/Pledge/whatever they are calling it today.

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