Mr Matt Foley Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Since it was just used for the first time in Syria, does anyone know of a 1/48 scale model of it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Solo Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Armory from Ukraine manufactures AGM-158. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bravosierra001 Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 http://www.internetmodeler.com/scalemodels/nraviation/Armory-1-48-AGM-158-JASSM.php Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Matt Foley Posted April 14, 2018 Author Share Posted April 14, 2018 Thanks Men! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Matt, do you which platform is carrying the AGM-158 in Syria? I have one or two of these from Attack Squadron (got them before stocks ran out) but don't know which aircraft can carry them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tosouthern66 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 IDK what AC are carrying them in Syria but there are photos of them on Hornets, Falcons, B-52 and I saw a Tornado with one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ytsejam87 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Not that it is a definitive source, but, according to this article on war-zone, all 19 JASSM-ER's were deployed from B-1B's. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mstor Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 2 hours ago, tosouthern66 said: IDK what AC are carrying them in Syria but there are photos of them on Hornets, Falcons, B-52 and I saw a Tornado with one. Hornets, good, I will look for such photos and perhaps hang some on a Hornet. Should make an interesting load out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GW8345 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 (edited) Just a note. USN/USMC Hornet's are not cleared for JASSM and to my knowledge, only a few test flights were done back in 2001. (I was in VX-23 bomb shop at the time and those things were a PITA to load). There are some FMS customers that do fly it though. Edited April 15, 2018 by GW8345 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Camus272 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Yes, they are being launched by B-1s. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
achterkirch Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 JASSM is also the basis for the new LRASM middle that’s being flight tested right now. JASSM does look pretty slick on the rotary launch on the bone though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Matt Foley Posted April 15, 2018 Author Share Posted April 15, 2018 9 hours ago, ytsejam87 said: Not that it is a definitive source, but, according to this article on war-zone, all 19 JASSM-ER's were deployed from B-1B's. This. The Brits used their Storm Shadow and the French deployed their equivalent (Apache?). B-1B's accompanied by Marine EA-6B Prowlers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Matt Foley Posted April 15, 2018 Author Share Posted April 15, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, ytsejam87 said: Not that it is a definitive source, but, according to this article on war-zone, all 19 JASSM-ER's were deployed from B-1B's. The Pentagon briefing yesterday morning also clarified that that they were JASSM-ER and delivery by the Bone. Edited April 15, 2018 by Mr Matt Foley Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scotthldr Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 4 hours ago, Mr Matt Foley said: This. The Brits used their Storm Shadow and the French deployed their equivalent (Apache?). The French version is the SCALP-EG and is what I expect was used this time. The APACHE is based on the SCALP-EG but is utilised for anti runway operations and it's warhead comprises of 10 cluster sub munitions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Matt Foley Posted April 15, 2018 Author Share Posted April 15, 2018 4 hours ago, scotthldr said: The French version is the SCALP-EG and is what I expect was used this time. The APACHE is based on the SCALP-EG but is utilised for anti runway operations and it's warhead comprises of 10 cluster sub munitions. Yes! I couldn't think of the name. Thanks for posting that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SebastianP Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 9 hours ago, scotthldr said: The French version is the SCALP-EG and is what I expect was used this time. The APACHE is based on the SCALP-EG but is utilised for anti runway operations and it's warhead comprises of 10 cluster sub munitions. Other way around, the APACHE came first, and the SCALP-EG and Storm Shadow are based on the existing APACHE airframe. It's IIRC a lot easier to stick a single warhead in a missile originally designed to carry the same weight in cluster munitions than it is to fit cluster munitions into a weapon originally designed for a unitary warhead, which is the same reason why the JSOW cluster version came first. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mawz Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 20 hours ago, GW8345 said: Just a note. USN/USMC Hornet's are not cleared for JASSM and to my knowledge, only a few test flights were done back in 2001. (I was in VX-23 bomb shop at the time and those things were a PITA to load). There are some FMS customers that do fly it though. The Finns and Australians do operate JASSM on the Hornet. To my understanding, the USN has not procured JASSM at all, it's a USAF-only weapon for now. They are buying the AGM-158C LRASM though (ASM variant of JASSM-ER) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Matt Foley Posted April 20, 2018 Author Share Posted April 20, 2018 On 4/15/2018 at 7:16 PM, SebastianP said: Other way around, the APACHE came first, and the SCALP-EG and Storm Shadow are based on the existing APACHE airframe. It's IIRC a lot easier to stick a single warhead in a missile originally designed to carry the same weight in cluster munitions than it is to fit cluster munitions into a weapon originally designed for a unitary warhead, which is the same reason why the JSOW cluster version came first. I am guessing that I could just use a 1/48 Apache Missile and say it is a Scalp? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crash Test Dummy Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 (edited) On 4/15/2018 at 5:21 AM, Mr Matt Foley said: The Pentagon briefing yesterday morning also clarified that that they were JASSM-ER and delivery by the Bone. Yesterday the USAF clarified that they were the base JASSM and not the ER version. https://www.airforcetimes.com/flashpoints/2018/04/19/pentagon-corrects-statements-about-air-to-surface-missile-f-22-roles-in-syria-strike/ Edited April 21, 2018 by Crash Test Dummy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sweier Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 On 4/15/2018 at 10:19 AM, tosouthern66 said: IDK what AC are carrying them in Syria but there are photos of them on Hornets, Falcons, B-52 and I saw a Tornado with one. I'm very doubtful that you saw a Tornado with JASSM loaded. More likely what you saw was Storm Shadow which is similar and is what they said was used Shane Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tosouthern66 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 9 minutes ago, sweier said: I'm very doubtful that you saw a Tornado with JASSM loaded. More likely what you saw was Storm Shadow which is similar and is what they said was used Shane It probably wasn't a JASSM, IDK foreign weapons. It was a pic at a distance and it looked like it was a JASSM but I probably was wrong. lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SebastianP Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 On 4/20/2018 at 8:42 PM, Mr Matt Foley said: I am guessing that I could just use a 1/48 Apache Missile and say it is a Scalp? I *think* so, though pictures of the actual APACHE missile, especially in live configuration, are apparently rare as hen's teeth and I haven't been able to find one yet. The only image I've been able to find of a definite APACHE missile is a flight test article in bright orange that's in a museum somewhere. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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