Snowbird3a Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 3 hours ago, john53 said: Thanks, so it's paint in 1955 is a bit of a mystery as this is 1958. Thanks so much for the image, it's the only one I have ever seen. So if it was in Europe in 1955 would it have had the red stabs and wings? I have no clue what the RCAF painted their planes in the European theater while serving with NATO? I do think I have seen NMF and camo? I have a hard enough time trying to keep up with the USAF and it's units, this is all new to me. Again thank you for the image.---John Mk5s were delivered in NMF, but were painted camo soon after. No, it would not have any red sections if it was a NMF aircraft in Europe. Google Image search of Canadair Mk5s should give you an idea of a typical squadron Sabre. Or just continue on your path with the SU codes, assume, if you will that it will before ‘58. Tony Quote Link to post Share on other sites
john53 Posted July 2, 2018 Author Share Posted July 2, 2018 Thanks Tony, that's what I have been doing. Most units in that time frame had a gray tail tip with a black area on the leading edge of the gray tail tip. I think Hobbycraft's red tipped tail is out there as I see no units with that color scheme. Were the "arctic red" areas of the wings and stabs similar to the same thing the U.S. did with their interceptors in Alaska? They were red to spot if they crashed in the snow or heavily forested areas.---John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Snowbird3a Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 yep, kinda the same idea, seen only on domestic Air Reserve squadron Sabres. Our interceptor Voodoos never had the red patches though. Tony Quote Link to post Share on other sites
john53 Posted July 3, 2018 Author Share Posted July 3, 2018 After an exhaustive search I am going with what Hobbycraft says minus the red tail tip. The tail will be standard light gray with black strip on tail's leading edge of light gray area.---John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
john53 Posted July 5, 2018 Author Share Posted July 5, 2018 Almost ready for second metallic color, gloss aluminum. Just a bit more masking.---John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
agelos2005 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 do you have share in Tamiya Tape?? great work mate! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
john53 Posted July 6, 2018 Author Share Posted July 6, 2018 No actually I DON'T have a share in air brush! Works for me!---John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
john53 Posted July 6, 2018 Author Share Posted July 6, 2018 (edited) One more shade of metallic, Tamiya silver leaf.---John Edited July 6, 2018 by john53 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joel_W Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 John, Panel Air Brush work certainly is time consuming, not to mention it just chews up Tamiya tape at an alarming rate, but the finished panels are certainly worth all of it. Joel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
john53 Posted July 6, 2018 Author Share Posted July 6, 2018 (edited) On 7/5/2018 at 1:17 PM, agelos2005 said: do you have share in Tamiya Tape?? great work mate! Angelos I use the tape because I have NO AIRBRUSH. All my models are done with brush painting for details and spray cans. It's an art form to me and those don't get it or understand it's my way and it ain't going to change for me EVER! Or as my old boss use to say " It is what it is".---John Edited July 7, 2018 by john53 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AX 365 Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 Coming along very nicely, John. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
barkin mad Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 On 7/2/2018 at 3:52 PM, Snowbird3a said: Mk5s were delivered in NMF, but were painted camo soon after. No, it would not have any red sections if it was a NMF aircraft in Europe. Google Image search of Canadair Mk5s should give you an idea of a typical squadron Sabre. Or just continue on your path with the SU codes, assume, if you will that it will before ‘58. Tony I know this is not that relevant being that a RCAF is under construction but I have seen pictures of RAF Sabres in the UK with NMF and the red sections. I believe this was how they or most were delivered. Course they lost them & went camo pretty quickly. ------------------- Quote Link to post Share on other sites
john53 Posted July 9, 2018 Author Share Posted July 9, 2018 3 hours ago, barkin mad said: I know this is not that relevant being that a RCAF is under construction but I have seen pictures of RAF Sabres in the UK with NMF and the red sections. I believe this was how they or most were delivered. Course they lost them & went camo pretty quickly. ------------------- Yes and No---I can't prove or disprove that. I lived in the U.S.A. all my life so I never saw RCAF Sabre 5s on a daily basis back in the day. I am just going by what I see and am told by the good people from Canada.---John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
john53 Posted July 9, 2018 Author Share Posted July 9, 2018 As a side note I am still pondering the red, do I or don't I? This is worse than the black or gray cockpit for late Korean War U.S. Sabres!!!!??? When does the madness stop! LOL, never.---John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joel_W Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 John, No air brush, just rattle cans and hand painting. Your build just got a whole lot more interesting as you're going on a completely different path then the vast majority of us. Joel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
john53 Posted July 9, 2018 Author Share Posted July 9, 2018 Where do I find a good 3 view showing the "red wings-tail" scheme?---John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Snowbird3a Posted July 10, 2018 Share Posted July 10, 2018 You will never find the definitive pic, there was so many variations. The Europe machines were clean NMF, the domestic Sabres had varying (standard) red panels. Grab one pic and go with that. 13 hours ago, john53 said: Yes and No---I can't prove or disprove that. I lived in the U.S.A. all my life so I never saw RCAF Sabre 5s on a daily basis back in the day. I am just going by what I see and am told by the good people from Canada.---John Top picture is before delivery to Europe, bottom pic is standard Chatham OTU colours Quote Link to post Share on other sites
john53 Posted July 24, 2018 Author Share Posted July 24, 2018 Most of the masking is done, just a little more on the topside and tail then into the paint booth for the final color, Tamiya TS-30 silver leaf.---John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joel_W Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 John53 Looking forward to seeing your Canadian Sabre NMF. Joel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
john53 Posted July 25, 2018 Author Share Posted July 25, 2018 (edited) All done with the 3 NMF sprays. Now to touch up the gun sight area under the wind screen, canopy rails, wheel wells and paint the tail tip light gray.---John Edited July 25, 2018 by john53 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Joel_W Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 John53, Very nice job on the NMF. Just enough panel differentiation for a realistic appearance without going overboard with nearly every panel being done. Joel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
john53 Posted July 25, 2018 Author Share Posted July 25, 2018 The tail tip was painted gray with a black leading edge.---John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
john53 Posted July 27, 2018 Author Share Posted July 27, 2018 I painted the anti glare panel and radome then added the drop tanks and gloss coated in preparation for decaling.---John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Peterpools Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 John Super work on the NMF .. looking so good. Keep ‘ em coming Peter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
john53 Posted July 31, 2018 Author Share Posted July 31, 2018 Done-in "The Display Case"---John Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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